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Who would you rather see in a Jazz uni next season?

Which former player would you like to see back?

  • AK47

    Votes: 20 47.6%

  • Korver

    Votes: 22 52.4%
  • Total voters
    42
And a similar question.
Would you rather be kicked in the left nut, or the right nut.... I mean punched in the right kidney, or left kidney.
Poked in the left eye, or right eye. Break your left arm or your right arm.

Would you rather have a guy that makes you cringe when he shoots and drives, even though he is somehow effective(sometimes and when not injured), or a guy with a silky smooth stroke that will not shoot when open because he has good stats at the moment and sucks on D?

Would you rather have Jimmer as your backup PG, or your backup 2?

Would you rather have your GF break up with you in person or by text/phone?

Would you rather die by drowning, or suffocation?

All tough questions.
 
illyasova said:
The thing is you gotta select players useful and integral not mediocre. You asked the FA players which are preferable and the players i mentioned are worth the money and more valuable than AK and Korver.
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So in your world Barnes, Dunleavy and JJ Redick is not mediocre and more useful then AK and Korver?
Please provide some arguments/stats, numbers, whatever data which would make me even consider this not a joke.
 
illyasova said:
Yea we saw the same thing with Marvin and MO experince. Last summer everyone was saying we needed 3 and 1 so medicority continued with mediocre players. I do not want either Korver or AK to continue the mediocrity. They will not make any difference. Korver will be scared to defend and AK will be out 25 matches due to back spasm etc.
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actually the bulls has done wonders for korvers defense.

atm korvers defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boozers Defense>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>al Defines
 
DutchJazzer said:
actually the bulls has done wonders for korvers defense.

atm korvers defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boozers Defense>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>al Defines
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Boozers defense is greater than Al's definition of defense??
 
AKMVP said:
So in your world Barnes, Dunleavy and JJ Redick is not mediocre and more useful then AK and Korver?
Please provide some arguments/stats, numbers, whatever data which would make me even consider this not a joke.
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AK can not even play consistenly due to health problem His past is already an aswer so no need to have a data about it. He can not carry the load and does not deserve the 10 mil he will get from the Wolves. His career % 30 3 point shooting will not help Jazz either. We are gonna see the same thing on offense that stucking at the paint due to no perimeter game and his rebounding and defense will not cover his crap offense. Dunleavy's 3 oint shooting this year is % 43.2, adding nice numbers as 4 reb 2 assists in 26 min. He can prepare either his own position or make assists , can play the 2 when it's needed. He is also way cheaper than AK. J.J. is for now so much better than Korver too. His defense is superior than Korver and he can play some PG too thx to his court vision which is so much better than Korver. Also stats do not tell the whole story, you gotta regard the performances of players due to their team's strategy. I am so sure J.J's and Mike's numbers would be so much better with our bigs. Spacing will be both better for them but also for the Jazz. No need to talk about the screens and sharing the ball.
 
DutchJazzer said:
actually the bulls has done wonders for korvers defense.
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Everybody makes wonder under Thibadeu's defense strategy. It was best when he was assistant coach for Celtics and now one of the best in Bulls too. He plays the set to set game, make the game even slowier and Deng, Noah are one of the best defenders in their own positions in the whole NBA.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
We certainly would be a lot better if we had AK and Korver rather than Marvin and Foye ...[/QUOT

Yeap better but not so much better. You gotta think Marvin is one of the worst and passive SF right now so any name over him seems better. Same goes Foye but Korver is just a bench guy for a contender too so not enough to be contender.
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There is only one man who has worn the Jazz uniform before that I would like to see wear it again. He brought passion and commitment every night. He would instantly change the culture and bring energy and excitement. He would not tolerate Big Al walking down the court, or Ty playing a guy 28 minutes without a rest. He would curse the booing idiots and demand the team give the fans something to cheer about. Who is it? Why do you have to ask, C'mon you know this guy.

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He's the one on the right.
 
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mellow said:
There is only one man who has worn the Jazz uniform before that I would like to see wear it again. He brought passion and commitment every night. He would instantly change the culture and bring energy and excitement. He would not tolerate Big Al walking down the court, or Ty playing a guy 28 minutes without a rest. He would curse the booing idiots and demand the team give the fans something to cheer about. Who is it? Why do ask, C'mon you know this guy.

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He's the one on the right.
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I miss Larry.
You sure got it right. No way Larry would be putting up with what's happened to the Jazz.

I vote for ol number 9 as well.
 
illyasova said:
AK can not even play consistenly due to health problem His past is already an aswer so no need to have a data about it. He can not carry the load and does not deserve the 10 mil he will get from the Wolves. His career % 30 3 point shooting will not help Jazz either. We are gonna see the same thing on offense that stucking at the paint due to no perimeter game and his rebounding and defense will not cover his crap offense. Dunleavy's 3 oint shooting this year is % 43.2, adding nice numbers as 4 reb 2 assists in 26 min. He can prepare either his own position or make assists , can play the 2 when it's needed. He is also way cheaper than AK. J.J. is for now so much better than Korver too. His defense is superior than Korver and he can play some PG too thx to his court vision which is so much better than Korver. Also stats do not tell the whole story, you gotta regard the performances of players due to their team's strategy. I am so sure J.J's and Mike's numbers would be so much better with our bigs. Spacing will be both better for them but also for the Jazz. No need to talk about the screens and sharing the ball.
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Funny, if you read Minny fan forums they voted AK as their team's MVP so far for this season. Maybe you should pay more attention how he is performing instead of living in the past. Check who was voted as best player in Europe in 2012 by FIBA experts. I will give you hint, not Nowitzki, not Gasol, not Parker and not Turkoglu ( LMAO )
If you think JJ's defense is superior to Korver then you are smoking something good. JJ is horrible defender. Keep in mind his offensive stats this year were inflated due to fact that he played on one of the worst teams in NBA and had high usage rate. So his numbers with our bigs would be way way worse - something like Foye but no better. Same with Dunleavy - yes he is great 3 pt shooter, but so is Foye and yet Korver is better then both. Dunleavy as well is like pylon on defense and missed almost same amount of games as AK due to injuries, how is that better?
Remember you called AK and Korver mediocre yet you offered same mediocre ( or in my opinion worse ) players for the Jazz. They are not the answer. .
 
AKMVP said:
Funny, if you read Minny fan forums they voted AK as their team's MVP so far for this season. Maybe you should pay more attention how he is performing instead of living in the past. Check who was voted as best player in Europe in 2012 by FIBA experts. I will give you hint, not Nowitzki, not Gasol, not Parker and not Turkoglu ( LMAO )
If you think JJ's defense is superior to Korver then you are smoking something good. JJ is horrible defender. Keep in mind his offensive stats this year were inflated due to fact that he played on one of the worst teams in NBA and had high usage rate. So his numbers with our bigs would be way way worse - something like Foye but no better. Same with Dunleavy - yes he is great 3 pt shooter, but so is Foye and yet Korver is better then both. Dunleavy as well is like pylon on defense and missed almost same amount of games as AK due to injuries, how is that better?
Remember you called AK and Korver mediocre yet you offered same mediocre ( or in my opinion worse ) players for the Jazz. They are not the answer. .
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Yeap Reddick played in one of the worst teams in the whole NBA (Magic) so he's gotta find a way to score among bad players and he made it in efficiency. Despite of no post up players in Magic and being well known shooter and not a qualified PG (Nelson) he scored really well. So with the good screeners and some post up players in Jazz, he can shoot it from downtown forever. I also said Reddick's court vision is better than Korver so he's just not a SG but a PG when it's needed. So i prefer him over Korver.

Dunleavy is far cheaper than AK and he's better SF for me. AK is playing the 4 more comfortably, using his all around game better. Yeap he can be one of the best player in Minny but how about Minny's performance? You say Reddick plays in a pace up game in one of the worst teams and AK do not? No Rubio until recent matches, No Love, so he was handling the ball so much and still sucking behind the arc. And in Jazz team the SF must be for sure sharp shooter that's why i said you gotta regard the team need while deciding the players' performance so Dunleavy contributes more than AK to Jazz right now by his perfect shooting, unselfish play and good court vision. Also, inside-outside game will be more balanced.
 
illyasova said:
. And in Jazz team the SF must be for sure sharp shooter that's why i said you gotta regard the team need while deciding the players' performance so Dunleavy contributes more than AK to Jazz right now by his perfect shooting, unselfish play and good court vision. Also, inside-outside game will be more balanced.
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Only thing Dunleavy would be contributing more is 3 pt%. AK is better overall player, better passer, better rebounder, better defender by far. How is that improving the Jazz? See M.Williams - he is better 3 pt shooter then AK as well- does it help Jazz more? No f... way.
 
AKMVP said:
Only thing Dunleavy would be contributing more is 3 pt%. AK is better overall player, better passer, better rebounder, better defender by far. How is that improving the Jazz? See M.Williams - he is better 3 pt shooter then AK as well- does it help Jazz more? No f... way.
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You exaggrate by comparing Marvin and AK. The percentage must be about the attempts too. Even though Dunleavy attempts more, his percentage is superior. Also, his 36 min stats are 15.1 points, 5.5 reb and 3 assists with the percentage of 45.5 FG, 81.5 FT and 43.2 3 point shooting (8th in the whole NBA). Your man AK's stat is 14.1, 6.5 reb and 3.1 assists with the percentage of 30.8 3 point shooting, 51.1 FG and 77 FT.

Also your man AK again injured his right leg yesterday without any touch or action. Hopefully he heals earliest. So by looking at their salaries and comparing their stats per 36 and injury past, which one you get and you really pay 10 mil per a year to AK?
 
I'd rather have AK because he will be injured and Corbin will for forced to play someone who rides the pine just because they are young.
 
Beantown said:
Both are free agents and I would assume both wouldn't mind coming back here. Take out the issue of their contracts and money. This is solely based on what player you would like to see play for the Jazz again.
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Neither.
Why are we even considering bringing back old, washed up vets? AK is is still the same guy he was before - only slower. He'll have a few good games where he gets 4 assists, a steal or two and a block. But he's still a liability from outside of 10 ft. And he'll still miss 15 games every year. As for Korver...damn, don't we go down this road every year...complaining about the Jazz' poor defense? Korver is a terrible defender. He has two skills: three point shooting and FT shooting. And even at that, have we forgotten he ADMITTED to passing up shots to protect his record? And that was at a time the Jazz desperately needed the one thing in games he could have/should have provided - scoring!

I'd rather have DeMarre over these two. Or start Hayward at SF. Or draft the best available wing at 18 or 20 or wherever our picks will be and start that rookie.
 
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