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Why are liberals so annoying?

kennykyle said:
Liberals and conservatives are all dumb asses, to be either a strong liberal or conservative you have to be fairly illogical and 100% stubborn.
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to be just liberal on everything or conservative on everything yes you have to be.
 
Just on outward manifestations alone, I think the big consversative/liberal divide is that there is a strong term identity relationship inherent in liberalism that doesn't really exist in conservatives. Liberals want you to know they are liberal. They want you to know they are trendy. They want you to think they really do care about cars running on poop, female polar bears' reproductive health, the water level off the coast of Guam, and every other "problem" in the world that nobody cares about because they aren't as cool as them. And then when you laugh at them, they go into the bag of defensive terminology and pull out racist, bigot, or homophobe even though you were talking about the water level off the coast of Guam. **** gets old.
 
The Black Swordsman said:
You guys are all describing art major, pot smoking, hipsters now!
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No, I'm talking about the average Dick and Jane Democrat working a white collar job in New York, L.A., Seattle, Boston, D.C., or San Francisco, that believe they evolved from the Ape's *** Democrat of their college years into a more refined Angelic Democrat living by creeds such as legi, intellexi, et condemnavi. That's a liberal to me.
 
SiroMar said:
A few days earlier, I had to defend the idea that human beings are far more intelligent than any other species on earth. You would think that this is so damn obvious, that it would be beyond reasonable discussion. But nope, not to them. Just look how intelligent that dog is! He totally understands what I'm saying. That's a good boy.
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Am I missing something, why would anyone want to argue about human intelligence (in general) superiority compared to animals? We are the ultimate result of evolution, debatable whether or not we were directed by God or not.

Oh yeah, I don't think white people are racist, but the system (voting districts, marijuana possession arrest tactics) are favorably (or unfavorably) skewed towards certain races. Anyone can argue that affirmative actions are unfair as well.

I don't get how anyone thinks communism is awesome. It's a terribly repressive government system and usually leads to the death or ignorance of millions of people (ex. North Korea). The only thing China does right is the swift execution of some white-collared crimes. If the U.S. had that, we wouldn't have the economy crashing into a ****hole.
 
asian_roger said:
Am I missing something, why would anyone want to argue about human intelligence (in general) superiority compared to animals? We are the ultimate result of evolution, debatable whether or not we were directed by God or not.

Oh yeah, I don't think white people are racist, but the system (voting districts, marijuana possession arrest tactics) are favorably (or unfavorably) skewed towards certain races. Anyone can argue that affirmative actions are unfair as well.

I don't get how anyone thinks communism is awesome. It's a terribly repressive government system and usually leads to the death or ignorance of millions of people (ex. North Korea). The only thing China does right is the swift execution of some white-collared crimes. If the U.S. had that, we wouldn't have the economy crashing into a ****hole.
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We have an attribute related to information processing and problem solving that we call intelligence. Humans possess this attribute at a MUCH higher level than any other animal. There is also massive differences in intelligence among animals. I don't see how this can be rationally denied.

The racism argument is a bit long, and I don't feel like getting into. But as far as communism is concerned, the argument is that the Soviets and other communist were a corruption of TRUE communism. Marx vision of communism was anarchist and without any central government. It is about self-sufficiency and living a simple life. I personally find that horrifying.
 
kennykyle said:
Liberals and conservatives are all dumb asses, to be either a strong liberal or conservative you have to be fairly illogical and 100% stubborn.
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Good post. I have more politically conservative tendencies, but much of the far-right can be equally as repulsive as far-left. (not quite, but close)
Overall, I like/identify with the conservative values much better than liberal values .. but I stand on my own belief system rather than subscribe to an entire platform. It seems anything else would be assinine.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
Just on outward manifestations alone, I think the big consversative/liberal divide is that there is a strong term identity relationship inherent in liberalism that doesn't really exist in conservatives. Liberals want you to know they are liberal. They want you to know they are trendy. They want you to think they really do care about cars running on poop, female polar bears' reproductive health, the water level off the coast of Guam, and every other "problem" in the world that nobody cares about because they aren't as cool as them. And then when you laugh at them, they go into the bag of defensive terminology and pull out racist, bigot, or homophobe even though you were talking about the water level off the coast of Guam. **** gets old.
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Duck Rodgers said:
No, I'm talking about the average Dick and Jane Democrat working a white collar job in New York, L.A., Seattle, Boston, D.C., or San Francisco, that believe they evolved from the Ape's *** Democrat of their college years into a more refined Angelic Democrat living by creeds such as legi, intellexi, et condemnavi. That's a liberal to me.
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thanks for the clear definition of your bias.
 
question for all respondents:

Is it also annoying to read 30+ posts where people synthesize the difference between two things from their panoptic perch and then claim to be mostly immune to them? There have been multiple occasions in this thread where people have had the audacity to say "this is what liberals are..." or "this is what conservatives do..." These normalizing judgments have been entertaining but pretty far off ... mostly because it's basically impossible to reify each group as a single thing, but also because they aren't as different as many of you are claiming.
 
NAOS said:
question for all respondents:

Is it also annoying to read 30+ posts where people synthesize the difference between two things from their panoptic perch and then claim to be mostly immune to them? There have been multiple occasions in this thread where people have had the audacity to say "this is what liberals are..." or "this is what conservatives do..." These normalizing judgments have been entertaining but pretty far off ... mostly because it's basically impossible to reify each group as a single thing, but also because they aren't as different as many of you are claiming.
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From my conservative perspective this is why liberals are annoying. They claim to be open minded but when I express my differing viewpoint, their open mindedness flies out the window and they berate me and label me as less intelligent than themselves.

Better?
 
I consider myself very independent and centralist. One thing a lot of conservatives state is that they went the government not to meddle with their lives. Like they are against government banishing Guns, Taxes etc but when it comes to who can marry who (like gays or interracial 30 years ago) they want the government not to allow it. Also they want the government not to allow abortions.
 
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