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Why Dennis Lindsey is a genius...

I really, really wonder if Lindsay or KOC got wind of Howard going to Houston, conned the unprotected 1sts from GSW, and came out smelling like roses.

KOC and Lindsay are more effective than the friggin' NSA.
 
Basically, instead of signing terrible players to huge contracts for a year, which they would have done, they traded for their cap room to be taken up by even more terrible players AND got 4 draft picks... Not sure if OP is trolling or not?
 
Bo_Spice said:
I know the vast majority of you are pretty mad about the deal we just made with the Warriors but it was an absolute genius move by our front office and I'll explain why. We acquired a first round pick in 2014 and 2017, a solid wing in Brandon Rush, and $20 million dollars in expiring contracts.

Next summer with guys like LeBron, Bosh, and Carmelo among others potentially hitting the free agent market teams will be desperate to acquire the cap space necessary to pursue them. We'll have three nice expiring contracts to deal at the trade deadline to acquire young players and draft picks. It happens every year, teams give up valuable assets for players with expiring deals at the trade deadline to free up cap space in the summer and it will happen again this year. We acquired five solid assets today for absolutely nothing. This was not a move that is going to make us immediately better but it will help us in the future.

We'll have at least two first round draft picks next year, one which will likely be a lottery pick in the most stacked draft class since 2003. Not to mention we will probably acquire at least one more pick at the deadline for one of our expiring contracts.

Lindsey is a genius and is doing an excellent job of building our team to make noise in the playoffs within a couple of years. Not to mention this move frees up a ton of minutes for Kanter and Favors and will allow them to start next to each other.

I love what Lindsey is doing in Utah and I'm sure all of you will love his plan when it starts to come together.
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I agree in general. But how is 2014 GSW a lottery pick? I think they are a lock for the playoffs. Depending on what they add now they may go deep...2017 is a better lottery chance in case that their core splits for some reason. And there are plenty things that can happen in 4 years.
 
spycam1 said:
Well, obviously the couldn't have, or they would. It's not like GS was like, "Here, take Barnes" and we were like, "Nah, we just lost one Jefferson and need another."
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This pretty much sums it up.

First of all, I'm not sure how any of us can whine about what Lindsey's done here without knowing what he may have attempted to do that got shot down. We're a small market team that is not a desired destination, and we are rarely positioned highly enough in the draft to acquire a sure thing. In his first offseason, he is showing he has the ability to look realistically at our assets and at least leverage them into something with potential.

Secondly, most of us want Corbin to let the young core play and develop this coming season. The "supporting cast" surrounding that core is nothing more than a bunch of short-timers who will have one job-- to let the youngsters catch their breath long enough to step right back out on the floor and continue gaining experience and chemistry.

Is this season going to suck? You betcha. But this is a franchise that-- in the past-- has never sacrificed a winning record in the name of allowing young players a legitimate opportunity to learn in realtime. I'm looking foward to it, personally.
 
BTP said:
I agree in general. But how is 2014 GSW a lottery pick? I think they are a lock for the playoffs. Depending on what they add now they may go deep...2017 is a better lottery chance in case that their core splits for some reason. And there are plenty things that can happen in 4 years.
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The only way they fall into the lottery is if they face some significant injuries IMO. I am not rooting for that. I just think that's the only way it happens.
 
trigg3r said:
The only way they fall into the lottery is if they face some significant injuries IMO. I am not rooting for that. I just think that's the only way it happens.
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I doubt GS ends up in the lottery, but with Steph's glass ankles who really knows? This was an awesome deal.
 
I hope we re-sign Tinsley and Carroll. Get Tony Douglas, too. Play Burks 30 minutes off the bench and let him be our Ginobili/Harden type of first scoring option off the bench. Will be a spark!

Jazz roster:

Favors - Gobert - Biedrins
Kanter - Evans - Williams
Hayward - Carroll - Jefferson - Williams
Rush - Burks
Burke - Douglas - Burks - Tinsley

Expected record: 26 - 56

Warriors hopefully won't be great with Howard going to Houston. Add a starter wing in next year's draft and a big to play some minutes off the bench. Lindsey is a genius!
 
Karmas a bitch, and GSW still have Marq Jaxson as a coach, which everybody at jazzfanz swear is a horrible coach, because he disrespected John Stockton.
 
CALJAZZFAN said:
Umm.... there is no assurance that having cap space with a slightly better draft means you have a different outcome. Cap space is nice to have, but not a sure thing. I don't actually have any issues with the cap space, it's the taking back garbage players when you could have taken at least one good player that annoys me.
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Perhaps. But acquiring a good player might give us 5 more wins and move us out of the top-6. Not quite as easy to trade expirings as it is straight cap space - and many teams will have a decent amount of expiring $ to deal. However, if we can perhaps flip one of these contracts we acquired for a lottery pick or a decent player at the deadline, then let the other ones (and I'm including Marvin here) simply expire to give us cap space for 2014, Lindsey will have hit it out of the park.
 
dipship31 said:
I doubt GS ends up in the lottery, but with Steph's glass ankles who really knows? This was an awesome deal.
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Even if they don't Utah now has 5ish draft picks and players to turn into a high pick. Not to mention the just raised the chances that their own 2014 pick is a high one.
 
BTP said:
I agree in general. But how is 2014 GSW a lottery pick? I think they are a lock for the playoffs. Depending on what they add now they may go deep...2017 is a better lottery chance in case that their core splits for some reason. And there are plenty things that can happen in 4 years.
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Since the Mavs didn't get Howard I think they are still probably a playoff team, but they could still potentially get pushed out.

They were 6th seeds this past year, but Houston could easily take them over making them a 7th seed.

Obviously last years 8th seed is the Lakers. They probably get worse.

Minnesota and Portland would both have to do well to push the Warriors out of the playoffs. Those are the only two non-playoff teams from the conference that have a chance to become playoff teams IMO.

I guess Dallas has an outside shot if they can really get Dirk healthy and make some moves in FA to get some decent players.

New Orleans is the only team left from the West that won't be in full tank mode from the get-go. I guess if their team really gels quick and Davis makes a huge leap this year they have an outside shot at a playoff spot, but I'm putting their playoff odds at 3%.
 
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