Why don't the Jazz use the "triangle" offense???

[carolinajazz]

"Since 1991, teams running the Triangle have won 11 of the 20 possible NBA titles. Not one team in the NBA uses the Triangle. It's a dead offense. So why did it die?

The easy (and lazy) answer is that no one uses the Triangle because it's too complex. The Triangle relies on its practitioners' ability to read an opposing defense in real time, so it's only as simple as the dumbest player on the floor."

When asked why the Triangle is disappearing, Jackson suggested that it's a hard offense for an impatient person to teach to modern athletes."

If you have the kind of player who wants to attack and score every time he touches the ball, he will hurt this offense."

So, bottom line....hip hopper types just don't have the patience or brains to run the triangle offense!

https://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7346315/what-ever-happened-triangle-offense

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Article sounded more like coaches don't know how to teach it properly.

 

[JimLes]

Because the guy who actually knows how to run the triangle, and who did it on all those 11 teams, is going to be 90 in a couple of months.

 

[vslice02]

https://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7346315/what-ever-happened-triangle-offense

Excellent article - thanks for the link!

Jackson talks about too many coaches/teachers being "impatient" - but another reason that goes along with it is job security. It takes time - when Jackson started w/the Lakers in 99-00, their first game was against the Jazz and their offense and movement was about as rudimentary as the triange can get. In the conf finals they faced Portland and they still weren't running it very effectively - and Scottie Pippen knew all the "pressure-points" and would leave Ron Harper to take away LA's primary options. It really wasn't until the 00-01 postseason where they really started fully executing it fully (and that was after they acquired Horace Grant who understood it from his Chicago days). So unless you're Phil Jackson, you're not going to have a 2-year grace period to teach the triangle, and you're not going to have superstar talent to carry your team while you're still going through the growing pains. We saw what happened with Kurt Rambis in Minnesota - where he didn't have the talent, job security, or teaching prowess. As a basketball fan you hope the triangle doesn't die with Tex Winter, but I fear it might.

IMO if there's 1 team that should run it, it's the Miami Heat - but I doubt you'll see that happen in the near future.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

I would love to see what Jackson could do in Miami from a pure basketball stand point.

 

[bat]

It's an extremely difficult offense to run, however, it becomes a lot easier to win with the triangle when you have MJ, Scottie, Shaq, and Kobe running it.

 

[jazzfan1971]

Jazz offense is a thing of beauty. Why fix what isn't broken?

 

[Brown Notes]

Corbin won't use the Triangle because he was not raised in it. Triangle offense is fine, so are others. Corbin was raised in the Flex. I suppose we will just have to wait to see what he does with that.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

"Since 1991, teams running the Triangle have won 11 of the 20 possible NBA titles. Not one team in the NBA uses the Triangle. It's a dead offense. So why did it die?

The easy (and lazy) answer is that no one uses the Triangle because it's too complex. The Triangle relies on its practitioners' ability to read an opposing defense in real time, so it's only as simple as the dumbest player on the floor."

When asked why the Triangle is disappearing, Jackson suggested that it's a hard offense for an impatient person to teach to modern athletes."

If you have the kind of player who wants to attack and score every time he touches the ball, he will hurt this offense."

So, bottom line....hip hopper types just don't have the patience or brains to run the triangle offense!

https://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7346315/what-ever-happened-triangle-offense

Decoding CJ, here's his bottom line, ". . . young inner-city black men don't have the ... brains to run the triangle offense."

Yet another racist post by CJ. Really, how long is this board going to put up with this bigot?

Edited to Add: The article at Grantland.com isn't what's racist, it's CJ's interpretation of it that's racists following in a long line of racist posts condemning "hip-hop" culture in the NBA, which everyone knows (or should know) is CJ's code word for black (primarily inner-city) NBA players who don't look, dress, talk, or generally conform to their white counterparts.

 

[Kyoto]

Decoding CJ, here's his bottom line, ". . . young inner-city black men don't have the ... brains to run the triangle offense."

Yet another racist post by CJ. Really, how long is this board going to put up with this bigot?

Edited to Add: The article at Grantland.com isn't what's racist, it's CJ's interpretation of it that's racists following in a long line of racist posts condemning "hip-hop" culture in the NBA, which everyone knows (or should know) is CJ's code word for black (primarily inner-city) NBA players who don't look, dress, talk, or generally conform to their white counterparts.

In all fairness, Scottie, Jordan, Shaq, Kobe,... all black players who won using the offense. Just sayin'.

 

[Harambe]

"Since 1991, teams running the Triangle have won 11 of the 20 possible NBA titles. Not one team in the NBA uses the Triangle. It's a dead offense. So why did it die?

The easy (and lazy) answer is that no one uses the Triangle because it's too complex. The Triangle relies on its practitioners' ability to read an opposing defense in real time, so it's only as simple as the dumbest player on the floor."

When asked why the Triangle is disappearing, Jackson suggested that it's a hard offense for an impatient person to teach to modern athletes."

If you have the kind of player who wants to attack and score every time he touches the ball, he will hurt this offense."

So, bottom line....hip hopper types just don't have the patience or brains to run the triangle offense!

https://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7346315/what-ever-happened-triangle-offense

It might also be said that 11 of the last 21 teams that won the NBA championship had amazingly talented teams, led by either Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant. I still maintain the biggest reason "the zen master" was so successful is because he happened upon amazing talent with the Bulls, or had an owner willing to distribute garbage sacks full of cash to get star players in the Lakers.

Had the NBA a hard cap, Phil Johnson would have won maybe half as many titles.

 

[Ben10]

With the teams that won The offense worked to a point of giving spacing and good passing, but if nothing is working there was alway MJ or Kobe to fall back on to get a shot late in the clock. With out a guy like that the offense tends to struggle. You do realize that Minny has been running the Triangle offense for the last 3 years right? Look were it got them.

Edit*( ElRocho beat me by a minute with the point I was making. But the last part still stands)

 

[Magic Spray]

"since 1991, teams featuring michael jordan and scottie pippen or shaq and/or kobe bryant have won 11 of the 20 possible nba titles. Only one team in the nba has kobe bryant..

ftfy

 

[m3at]

Yet another racist post by CJ. Really, how long is this board going to put up with this bigot?

It's pretty shocking that someone will get an infraction for "Circumventing Profanity Filter", yet this racist, bigot is left unchecked. Everything he posts is a thinly veiled, racist and bigoted comment, yet he's still here. Most other forums would have ran his *** out of town a long time ago.