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Why is San Antonio thought of as small market

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Conventional NBA wisdom you hear people call San Antonio small market. "If the NBA is rigged why would they have San Antonio win", etc. Its like the 7th most populated city in the country. I was shocked to learn this today. (I guessed 9/10 most populated US cities)
 
Lance-A-Million said:
Conventional NBA wisdom you hear people call San Antonio small market. "If the NBA is rigged why would they have San Antonio win", etc. Its like the 7th most populated city in the country. I was shocked to learn this today. (I guessed 9/10 most populated US cities)
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What's their rank when it comes to size of the metro area?
 
Last year during the playoffs, I told a guy who was picking on some 18 year-old kid at my house, the Spurs were a small-market team. He argued they weren't and asked me if I wanted to fight him. It didn't end well for him.
 
To answer your question though, I'm pretty sure it has to do with the media market and how much the team generates state and nationwide.
 
There is like 1.4 million people here, that makes up most city metros. San Marcos is like right outside of San Antonio, also. So I'd be sure that they are in San Antonio's metro, and thats a fairly large city.
 
https://www.tvjobs.com/cgi-bin/markets/market2.cgi

San Antonio is the 37th largest media market in the country - smaller than salt lake city, milwaukee, and greenville SC but larger than Birmingham, AL and West Palm Beach, FL.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

similarly the metro size of San Antonio is ranked 25th. Its less than half the size of Boston, Miami, Houston and 1/9th the size of New York. San Antonio is even smaller than sacremento and portland
 
TheItinerantSon said:
https://www.tvjobs.com/cgi-bin/markets/market2.cgi

San Antonio is the 37th largest media market in the country - smaller than salt lake city, milwaukee, and greenville SC but larger than Birmingham, AL and West Palm Beach, FL.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

similarly the metro size of San Antonio is ranked 25th. Its less than half the size of Boston, Miami, Houston and 1/9th the size of New York. San Antonio is even smaller than sacremento and portland
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Well that settles it. San Antonio is really a small market, if not a small city, and Archie kisses and tells.
 
By "market" they are talking about the number of TV's.
The more tv's, the more the team makes in their tv deals... the more the team makes... and basically the more wiggle room the team has to go over the cap to pay good players.

It's all about tv's.
 
Austin is a Spurs town, and it's ****ing huge. And that's saying nothing about adding San Antonio, which is also huge.
 
Maybe because they're downsized when people in the state talk about Dallas or Houston. San Antonio has nothing on those cities.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Austin is a Spurs town, and it's ****ing huge. And that's saying nothing about adding San Antonio, which is also huge.
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Although I agree Austin is somewhat of a Spurs town. It's also very mixed in fans. Plus they care about football 10x more than basketball.
 
JazzSpazz said:
By "market" they are talking about the number of TV's.
The more tv's, the more the team makes in their tv deals... the more the team makes... and basically the more wiggle room the team has to go over the cap to pay good players.

It's all about tv's.
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This.

Doesn't matter if Austin is a Spurs town or not, or how big San Antonio is. It's about media access in a specified geographic area.
 
Archie Moses said:
Last year during the playoffs, I told a guy who was picking on some 18 year-old kid at my house, the Spurs were a small-market team. He argued they weren't and asked me if I wanted to fight him. It didn't end well for him.
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I guess you did not use lube. your right that normally does not end well
 
Archie Moses said:
Last year during the playoffs, I told a guy who was picking on some 18 year-old kid at my house, the Spurs were a small-market team. He argued they weren't and asked me if I wanted to fight him. It didn't end well for him.
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I'm sure it ended with him saying they weren't and you going your separate ways tough guy.
 
So Archie, you're saying you beat up or threatened to beat up someone over a disagreement on a trivial sports matter, and you are proud of this?
 
I lived in the Austin area during one of The Spurs championship years and I can tell you NOBODY talks about The Spurs or professional basketball. When the ESPN Radio feed goes local it's UT/College Football 365 days a year and that's not an exaggeration.
 
This seems to get covered every year. Whether a team is big/mid/small market is determined by DMA's (Designated Market Areas). DMA's organize around major cities and then include surrounding areas. Everyone always wants to lump in surrounding cities to various team's DMA's, claim those populations as strengthening that team's market share, and conclude small market teams are big(er) market teams. That's not how it works.

The issue is what DMA's their cable contracts cover. Just using San Antonio, they're competing with Houston and Dallas. They obviously lose out big in the population war to those two (much smaller DMA), to say nothing of the money and influence those cities carry in the state. It's entirely possible Spurs games aren't even available in Austin. By consequence, their cable contract isn't likely to cover any great ground. Which means it makes them a LOT less money than Dallas or Houston.

San Antonio + limited coverage through Fox Sports (presumably) = lower revenue contract = small market.
 
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