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With the number 6 pick, the Utah Jazz select:

With the 6th pick, The Utah Jazz select:


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Knight has elite potential

Definite star upside in the kid. Something I haven't heard mentioned is his insane change of direction and change of pace/hesitation ability. You can yap about what he doesn't do/hasn't done well (and I have and I'm still not sold), but his ability to break a defense with a small head-fake/crossover at almost stationary to full-speed in the opposite direction (or bringing it back when they bite hard on his move) is great and could be devastating with more work and with a more refined game.
 
Here's a question: what if Fredette shoots up the draft board after the NBA Draft Combine and individual workouts with teams? Would people then consider taking him with the 6th pick (or whatever it ends up being) if he is available?

I think you and Cousinsfan2012lolbrb are the only ones that would.
 
Put this in the what if category. What if Kanter, Biyambo, and Knight are taken 3,4,5. Who would we take then? Not sure we want Kemba. So perhaps Vesely? Insurance if AK is gone. Great athlete. Can play the 3 or 4. Decent shooter. Many believe he might be the most NBA ready guy after the top 2.
 
Knight doesnt turn 19 until this December also, making him younger than a lot of high school seniors.
 
I'm sure he will be the 2nd PG taken in the draft. Unless someones is really high on Walker as a scoring PG to compliment a ball handling SG (like the Kings?), but even then Knight has shown ability to play off the ball like Walker can.
 
If Knight is going to go before the 6th pick, and that's where Utah is stuck, KOC better package the 6 and 12 to move up a few spots. With who's available to draft in the top 3, I'm willing to bet Minnesota would be more than happy to trade back and gain a pick. I know he's not a complete package yet, but Knight's the guy you gotta get if you're the Utah Jazz IMO.
 
Looks like I am with the majority on this one. I think Knight is the pick if he is still there at 6 for us. Harris has 2 years left on his deal and If Knight reaches his potential in the normal 2 year window they we have a replacement for Harris as a starter. If he develops faster then we can use Harris in a trade. What I have seen of knight he is a pretty good shooter and could even play off the ball at the 2 being 6' 4". So I don't see playing time even with Harris still on the roster being a problem, plus Harris well miss at least 10 games with injuries.
 
At #6, I like Knight but I have some concerns. Two issues for me are his quickness (his first step and ability to get by defenders is not very impressive in all highlights and games I've seen) and his skinny stature. In all video, he seems to only pull next to his defender, not by. I see that flaw being a combination of not being lightning quick and him not having a strong frame ala Derrick Rose to use his body to create space. And because of this he does not typically get it to the rim with any sort of ease or often. In the NBA, I see his ability to try to blow by someone and/or attack the rim being infinitely tougher and his game maybe only translating like Mike Conley, Jr.'s has. Their frames are similar though Knight is taller and has a far better shot.

My bigger concern is with how well he can run the point. Yes he was a frosh but 4.2 assists per game in 35.9 minutes leaves a lot to be desired. Rose had not much more as a frosh at Memphis with 4.7 per game but also only played 29.2 minutes so that translated into Knight's playing time brings it up to 5.78 per 35.9 minutes. Deron's frosh numbers were even better than Rose's with 4.53 assists per game in just 27.1 minutes per contest. Kidd had 7.6 as a frosh at Cal. This is a large concern to me. His frame and lack of lightning speed makes me think he'll be able to be defended too easily and stripped of the ball and such, hence his high turnover rate (3.2 per game) in college. Who knows. Rose's turnover stats were just as high per minute but I see that being the result of his insane athleticism and him getting ahead of himself at times, not a ***** in his armor as I see Knight's high turnovers.
 
Rondo had just 3.5 assists in 25.1 minutes as a frosh which translates to 5.00 per game in Knight's time as a frosh. Ugh. I'm not so sure. He can shoot but kid really needs to become more explosive and put on some muscle and then stay with Stockton over the summer for a week or two like Deron did after his rookie year.
 
Just like every other draft we will look back at it and ask how in the hell did we miss that. If Brandon Knight is available at #6 and Utah passes on him that will be the likely "how did we miss that" player.
 
Truth be told I had the same problem last year. There were 8 guys that I thought would really help the Jazz out. And all 8 guys got picked before our pick at 9. I was fine with the Hayward pick. But he wasn't a guy that I really expected to be an impact player. (glad I was wrong there). This year is the same. I think there are 4-5 guys that can really help the Jazz. Knight is one of those 4-5 so if he is there at 6 I would think the Jazz have to take him.
 
I like Knight a lot too! i would love to see the Jazz do similar things to what oklahoma City did with their young team. Check this out:
Reconstructive Jazz
April 27th, 2011 by Mychal
A lot has gone wrong during this season. You know that old joke you would tell your friends before every Jazz season? The one about how there are 3 things in life that will never change? Death, Taxes, and Jerry Sloan? Unfortunately all three of those things combined together to result in a highly overpaid, underachieving, and Sloan/Deron-less Utah Jazz squad.

The Jazz are currently in rebuilding mode no matter how Kevin O’Connor phrases it. But just because the Jazz are rebuilding does not mean the Utah franchise has left its fans out in the cold. Some fans out there are feeling hopeless. Today I want to show you the light at the end of the tunnel. Introducing The Steps of Rebuilding: OKC Edition.

Get Younger
Take a look at the best teams in the West by Age:

Lakers – 29.64
Mavericks – 29.26
Spurs – 27. 57
Denver – 26.57

Portland – 25.8

Thunder – 24.71

This day is coming soon....
Notice a trend? The best 3 teams are getting old. The next great team, OKC, is by far the youngest of the elite teams. The scary thought is they will just continue to improve. The Jazz are rebuilding their team around the OKC model: Accumulate a lot of draft picks in a 3 year span, trade them around for best value, get young fast, cut out expensive veteran salaries, and prepare for an extended playoff run in the twilight of the elite teams careers. The Jazz did not make these moves to be playoff ready for the Lakers, Spurs, and Mavericks this year. They made this move to be competitors to the Trailblazers, Nuggets, and Thunder in two years.

As it stands right now the Jazz have an average age of 27. Now in the 2011/2012 season if you take an average age of 21 years old for every rookie the Jazz draft (for the sake of this I’m only counting 1st round picks) and eliminate those whose contracts end after this year (Kirilenko, Elson, Watson, Price, Fesenko) the Jazz’s average age will be about 25.6. Then after that year in the 2012/2013 season the Jazz’s average age with two more 1st round picks (using an average age of 21 for each draft pick) and minus Okur will be about 23.23. In just two years the average of the Jazz will go from 27 to 23.23. Kevin O’Connor not only hastened the rebuilding process about a year early he shot it with a dose of steroids.

Get Good Draft Value
In the 2007 NBA draft the OKC Thunder hastened the rebuilding process by trading away Ray Allen. They received Boston’s lottery pick, #5, in addition to their own #2 pick. In that draft they selected Kevin Durant and Jeff Green.


Durant and Green drafted by the OK...er...Seattle Super...Thunder?....
The following year in 2008, they played their young players long and often giving them vital development time which resulted in the #5 pick in that draft. With that pick they selected Russell Westbrook, who by the way no one was billing as an elite PG, but the Thunder had other intentions and knew he would be something special. They also drafted Ibaka later in the first round with the Phoenix Suns’ pick (#24) and D.J. White with the 29th pick.

In 2009, the Thunder had the #2 pick as a result of their own record by playing their young guys and giving them precious development time. They drafted James Harden. A guy who would never become a star in this league but a guy who could be the Steve Kerr to the Thunder’s Westbrook/Durant.

Then in 2010 after playing their young guys all season long and accumulating development time over the past 2 years their young players turned the corner a year early. Westbrook became a budding star. Durant became a star. They made the playoffs and scared the Lakers. In that draft they decided they needed size down low. They traded up and picked Cole Aldrich with the #11 pick. Aldrich will never be a star in this league but the Thunder already have two. They just needed B.J. Armstrongs and Steve Kerrs.

Now flash forward to the present. The Jazz have two draft picks this year, #6 and #12. They also have a lot of assets to use for future draft picks whether they come this year or next year. Lots of teams will be trading picks around this year due to the weak draft. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. The Jazz could get good value in current draft if they play their cards right.

Next year they will have their own pick provided they land in the lottery. They also have Golden State’s pick next year in what should be a deep draft. If the Jazz follow the OKC model and play their young guys often then their own pick could be a lottery pick. I know what a lot of you just thought when you read that. Is he really saying the Jazz should tank? No, it is called development. What good would the Jazz be doing if they played guys who are not part of the Jazz’s future?


Part of the Future (Djamila Grossman | The Salt Lake Tribune)
I’m a proponent of development. If the Jazz were to acquire 6 lottery picks in 3 years that would trump anything OKC was able to pull off. The Jazz already have Favors and Hayward. They will have two lottery picks in 2011. Right now Draft Express has the Jazz selecting Bismack Biyombo at #6 and Alec Burks at #12. Not superstar talent but solid talent. If the Jazz can manage to get lucky enough to get into the top 2 and select Derrick Williams or Kyrie Irving they will have the opportunity to capitalize on a weak draft. If they develop their young guys they will have a chance for two lottery picks next year. Their own and a Golden State pick that’s protected 1-8. If they were to package those draft picks plus a known talent they could get a star-potential player. I know the draft is sometimes a crapshoot but having that many picks in the lottery is like idiot proofing your future. You can’t strike out that many times, well, unless your name is the Clippers.

Swiping Good Players
OKC used their cap space as a storage unit. They became a place to send old stuff (players) that teams didn’t use anymore because they had the room. But those rental units came at a price. A steep price. Look at this list:

Thabo Sefolosha
Eric Maynor
Nate Robinson
Kendrick Perkins
Nazr Mohammed
These players were sniped away from other teams needing to dump salary. Sefolosha was a defensive minded SG picked up from Chicago. Perfect compliment to Durant and Westbrook. Eric Maynor was traded from the Jazz in a cost cutting move that included Matt Harpring’s contract. Nate Robinson and Kendrick Perkins were taken on when Boston couldn’t afford to give Perkins his extension. The Thunder traded Jeff Green (who ironically Boston traded to the Thunder) back to Boston for a solid starting C with playoff experience. They threw in Nenad Krstic and called it a day. They then traded D.J. White for Nazr Mohammed as Charlotte was cutting salary.

For the Jazz to hasten the rebuilding process they have to get under the salary cap. Far below it. If they do they could make out like bandits with the upcoming CBA. There are talks of a hard salary cap. Even if that does not come to fruition the salary cap will be lowered. Teams will be trying to get below it not to pay a likely increase in luxury taxes. The Jazz if they cut salary now will be in a great position to play the OKC role and use their cap space to save teams from luxury taxes and be able to accrue some good assets: draft picks & players.

Stable Organization
The Thunder have not been successful solely because of their drafting and trade-making skills. They have a stable organization. Which is saying a lot. The fact that a team can come out of the Seattle mess and a few years later be seen as a dependable organization with a clear vision says a lot. It also gives hope to Utah fans.


We miss you Larry...
This past season has been one of the most tumultuous in recent memory. Jazz lost Jerry Sloan, Phil Johnson, and Deron Williams. That doesn’t even include the mass exodus of Jazz players to Chicago before the season began. Injuries ravaged this team. Fans were frustrated by the front office decision to trade Deron Williams. Even with all that the season ended on a good note with the Jazz’s future, Hayward and Favors, putting on a show in the season’s final game. The important thing is to have an organization underneath everything that is capable of riding out the storm and the Jazz organization is capable of that. The Jazz do with Kevin O’Connor and the Miller Family.

Get Lucky
Luck can turn silver into gold. If you take a look at the Thunder they have caught some serious breaks. The draft is an inexact science. No matter how much money is put into scouting, how “can’t miss” the prospect is, and how great your developmental coaching is a team is bound to find a few duds. But in a 3 year span the Thunder, for the most part, were able to draft solid talent and have players rise above their known potential. We sometimes credit a General Manager prematurely for their amazing drafting skills because of their luck when drafting. The Thunder didn’t strike gold when they drafted D.J. White. He was later traded for Nazr Mohammed. Cole Aldrich, #11 pick of 2010 draft, has spent most of his rookie year with the Tulsa 66ers. But their successful picks of Durant, Green, Westbrook, Harden, and Ibaka mask the mistakes.

In 2008, Scott Brooks took over midseason for P.J. Carlesimo as an interim coach. Who knew that Brooks would coach the Thunder to the playoffs the following year and receive the 2009-2010 Coach of the Year Award then? No one did. He was a good coach but under the right circumstances Brooks showed he could be a great coach. Oklahoma City got lucky. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than to be good.

The Jazz need some of that luck. They need that luck to go their way and win the lottery. They need that luck to go their way with Millsap making a transition from PF to SF. They need that luck to go their way with Hayward, Evans, and Favors continuing their development in a potentially long offseason. Most importantly, they need that luck to go their way with Corbin coming into his own as a head coach.

The most important thing the Jazz can do is set the stage for that luck to take effect. The Jazz have the draft picks, the assets, the coaching, and soon they will have the cap space to create the right conditions for something special to happen. With a little luck, the Jazz can out-OKC OKC.
 
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