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MVP said:
Are you telling me that no constitution or amendment in history of humanity was ever changed? So if your constitution from hundreds of years ago would give you the right to own slaves you would do nothing and say he it is my RIGHT? Come on, it is not impossible to change. Humans evolve and get better and change laws, rules and constitutions for better. Is this stupid law to have right to own guns which was set some long time ago even relevant in today's reality? Absolutely no. Just do the right thing and leave it in history books. Arrange the referendum, let all people of USA decide. If majority is really that stupid and votes yes, than I would rest my case forever. But I can't believe most of USA people are this short sighted.
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I'm telling you that if anything meaningful is to be done the Amendment needs to be changed. That's what I'm saying.
 
bigb said:
That’s the beauty of it. Based on this wonderful thing called The Constitution, it is a RIGHT.
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It can be changed. Every country adjusts and fixes their Constitutions based on reality. Your current reality is way different from 18th century - it does not apply anymore.
 
MVP said:
Yes but you sounded like it is impossible.
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Based on current public opinion, and on our current legislative make-up it is not possible right now.

Please read my last line in the OP and stop being a jerk.
 
Bulletproof said:
Based on current public opinion, and on our current legislative make-up it is not possible right now.

Please read my last line in the OP and stop being a jerk.
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I did read your post. Not well educated on your current legislative make-up, so please explain why it is not possible? How can it be in "most democratic" country ever that if majority of people would like to change their Constitution it is not possible?
 
Bulletproof said:
I assumed you were talking to me, but either way that does nothing to further discussion.
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Obviously I would never say anything like that to you. And yes, it does nothing to discussion, it was just last good bye post to that dick. Did you have him on ignore as well? If so makes sense as his quote just disappeared and it looked like I was replying to you.
 
MVP said:
I did read your post. Not well educated on your current legislative make-up, so please explain why it is not possible? How can it be in "most democratic" country ever that if majority of people would like to change their Constitution it is not possible?
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It takes a 2/3rds majority to change the Constitution.

As for BigB, not only do I not have him on ignore, we've met in person well over a dozen times, he's a nice guy on and off Jazzfanz, I consider him a friend.
 
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Bulletproof said:
It takes a 2/3rds majority to change the Constitution.

As for BigB, not only do I not have him on ignore, we've met in person well over a dozen times, he's a nice guy on and off Jazzfanz, I consider him a friend.
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I was replying to Dutch....
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.[3]
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So 2/3 of Congress. So again, it is possible. If people start demanding it those who are elected by people would have no choice but to change it.
 
MVP said:
So 2/3 of Congress. So again, it is possible. If people start demanding it those who are elected by people would have no choice but to change it.
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Possible, sure.
 
Bulletproof said:
I've never shot one of the really large caliber pistols (I'm thinking like .500 S&W) with a long barrel and a scope. I have no idea how far out you could go with something like that.

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You'd be surprised. I have a friend with a long range revolver (Remington XP 100, takes rifle ammo) and he can consistently shoot accurately to 200 yards. I also have semi auto pistols that we tested and we found 30 to 40 yards was about as far as you could go without losing a semblance of accuracy (25 yards is about my limit of keeping tight grouping with 9mm and .40). I was able to hit a target 100 yards out a few times with my friends Desert Eagle 5.0 and was fairly consistent with it.

The Remington was a lot of fun to shoot. Also google Bob Munden and 200 yards. Lots of videos of Bob and other shooters show that 200 yards is do-able for really good shooters, even with small caliber pistols.
 
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