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Would Hayward take less than the max?

Car salesman? So not only would you not put your life on it, you won't put $100 on it and at most you will put up $20 to win $60.

Yeah, no.

Oh come off it stop the trolling. I clearly said $20 to win $40. You host poker parties an you cannot figure that out? Come on man just stop.

How are you claiming we have a bet when I said I WOULD bet $100 against Hayward max? I will bet $100 if the terms are right. Clearly you are in the odds an clearly you believe it is inevitable so be clear an give me your terms. I am not taking 1:1 odds if it is so inevitable. I am not taking 10:1 odds either on $100. You give me 20:1 on your inevitable $100 bet an I will mail it to you.

That is reasonable. 30 teams in the league claim they can max Hayward. 20:1 odds is plus ten more then you are giving up.
 
Oh come off it stop the trolling. I clearly said $20 to win $40. You host poker parties an you cannot figure that out? Come on man just stop.

How are you claiming we have a bet when I said I WOULD bet $100 against Hayward max? I will bet $100 if the terms are right. Clearly you are in the odds an clearly you believe it is inevitable so be clear an give me your terms. I am not taking 1:1 odds if it is so inevitable. I am not taking 10:1 odds either on $100. You give me 20:1 on your inevitable $100 bet an I will mail it to you.

That is reasonable. 30 teams in the league claim they can max Hayward. 20:1 odds is plus ten more then you are giving up.
You're getting way more ridiculous. I'm disappointed.

I'm done talking about this.
 
Okay final offer. I bet you $20 with 2:1 odds On my side that Hayward does not get more then $30 million next season. I will pay in advance so i take ALL the risk. If you have morals you will make good. If not you steal my money.
 
Okay final offer. I bet you $20 with 2:1 odds On my side that Hayward does not get more then $30 million next season. I will pay in advance so i take ALL the risk. If you have morals you will make good. If not you steal my money.
Lol, he can't get 30 mil next season.
 
People often take less money to work someplace that's a better environment, closer to family, provides better opportunities, with co-workers or bosses that they like, and so forth. It's not uncommon at all. I myself have done that on two different occasions that I can think of.

I agree that it's not likely Hayward will take less than the max, but it sort of saddens me that things like my previous sentence don't happen more often with the large amount of money that's available in professional sports.

It goes both ways though. Why should Hayward take less money so Greg can have more? Greg's biggest accomplishment in life was being a lucky sperm and building a race track that lost 100 million dollars that he walked away from.

And Greg is going to ask him to take less money for the good of the organization? That is a tough pill to swallow. Especially if you come from poverty (which I know Hayward doesn't).

As a fan, I'd love for LeBron, Wade and Bosh to take less money and come here and win a title. BUT, I'll never blame a player for taking as much as he can. As much as the players make, the owners make exponentially more. Look at the Millers. They bought the Jazz for 14 million. It's worth over 800 million now. Stockton and Malone aren't worth anywhere near that. Plus the Millers own the arena. They have made over 1 billion dollars off the Jazz. And that doesn't even take into account how much they have made off their other business ventures touting themselves as Jazz guys.

Yeah, it would be great to have Hayward take less money. But, if you are Hayward, and you see Millers wasting money you've created for them...I don't blame you for wanting as much as that as possible.

If the Millers want to win a title (which I'm not sure they do), let them pony up for it and pay the tax. The Jazz could easily keep Hayward, Gobert, Favors, Hood, Exum, Lyles, Burks. There is nothing stopping them from doing so. And if they all pan out how we hope, they'd be great and win multiple titles (if Exum becomes a star and Gobert gets an offensive game). BUT, the Millers won't pay for that to happen. They will trade away players for nothing to save money, like that have done in the past.

I don't blame them for that either. It's a business. You want to make money in your business ventures.

BUT, the same goes for the players as well. We can't villianize (not saying that we have done that here) players for wanting all their money and then not give owners grief for not going over the salary cap.
 
Lol, he can't get 30 mil next season.

Uhh, okay. What new rule did you [MENTION=181]Broncster[/MENTION] make up that limits Hayward from making roughly $32.1 million like his equivalent counterparts?

Regardless, I already hedged in [MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION] favor at anything below 93.75% the max I win. He refuses all these concessions.
 
Uhh, okay. What new rule did you [MENTION=181]Broncster[/MENTION] make up that limits Hayward from making roughly $32.1 million like his equivalent counterparts?

Regardless, I already hedged in [MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION] favor at anything below 93.75% the max I win. He refuses all these concessions.
Who got 32 million max this year in their first year who is under 9 years in the league?
 
I mean, either way it is surely free $20 to [MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION] right? I am surprised [MENTION=3213]Cunning Linguist[/MENTION] an others have not got in on the action.

Make a poll, give me those odds an let us get everyone in on it. We can all sent [MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION] or [MENTION=3213]Cunning Linguist[/MENTION] like five dollars on the Hayward paid side an I will take the opposite. Poll first an no cheating.
 
What does this year have to do with next seasons cap? I do not get you are saying. 9 years? Come on bud, pull it together like a trout an a bum.

We dont know what the max is next season for sure yet. It does not look like anyone is getting over 30 mil in the first year though by all projections. Maybe in the 3rd 4th year of the deal.
 
We dont know what the max is next season for sure yet. It does not look like anyone is getting over 30 mil in the first year though by all projections. Maybe in the 3rd 4th year of the deal.

We have been over this. Do you punch yourself in the head?
 
I mean, either way it is surely free $20 to [MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION] right? I am surprised [MENTION=3213]Cunning Linguist[/MENTION] an others have not got in on the action.

Make a poll, give me those odds an let us get everyone in on it. We can all sent [MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION] or [MENTION=3213]Cunning Linguist[/MENTION] like five dollars on the Hayward paid side an I will take the opposite. Poll first an no cheating.

Blah blah blah blah blah.
 
Who else refuses Borises bet? You all so sure you can not bet $5 that Haywayd will not get max contract? [MENTION=3213]Cunning Linguist[/MENTION] said he wants action now running scared?
 
Who else refuses Borises bet? You all so sure you can not bet $5 that Haywayd will not get max contract? [MENTION=3213]Cunning Linguist[/MENTION] said he wants action now running scared?

What's the bet? You're betting 5$ he will or won't get mad. I believe he will get the max
 
It goes both ways though. Why should Hayward take less money so Greg can have more? Greg's biggest accomplishment in life was being a lucky sperm and building a race track that lost 100 million dollars that he walked away from.

And Greg is going to ask him to take less money for the good of the organization? That is a tough pill to swallow. Especially if you come from poverty (which I know Hayward doesn't).

As a fan, I'd love for LeBron, Wade and Bosh to take less money and come here and win a title. BUT, I'll never blame a player for taking as much as he can. As much as the players make, the owners make exponentially more. Look at the Millers. They bought the Jazz for 14 million. It's worth over 800 million now. Stockton and Malone aren't worth anywhere near that. Plus the Millers own the arena. They have made over 1 billion dollars off the Jazz. And that doesn't even take into account how much they have made off their other business ventures touting themselves as Jazz guys.

Yeah, it would be great to have Hayward take less money. But, if you are Hayward, and you see Millers wasting money you've created for them...I don't blame you for wanting as much as that as possible.

If the Millers want to win a title (which I'm not sure they do), let them pony up for it and pay the tax. The Jazz could easily keep Hayward, Gobert, Favors, Hood, Exum, Lyles, Burks. There is nothing stopping them from doing so. And if they all pan out how we hope, they'd be great and win multiple titles (if Exum becomes a star and Gobert gets an offensive game). BUT, the Millers won't pay for that to happen. They will trade away players for nothing to save money, like that have done in the past.

I don't blame them for that either. It's a business. You want to make money in your business ventures.

BUT, the same goes for the players as well. We can't villianize (not saying that we have done that here) players for wanting all their money and then not give owners grief for not going over the salary cap.

well put dude ... but "villify" plz The same as ppl who talk about "aggressiveness" instead of aggression ..
 
I agree.

He was already saying there's no way Hayward gets the max and now he wants to dicker on what that means, like if hayward gets 95% of the max I lose. BS, either Hayward isn't in max territory or he is. Obviously he is and if Boris actually puts up his money I'm gonna get paid.

Boris is an obvious charlatan of the highest degree.
 
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