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Would Wiggens stay with the Jazz long term?

Would Wggins stay in Utah long term?

  • Most likely

    Votes: 11 68.8%

  • Probably not

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • Total voters
    16
Catchall said:
As long as the Jazz are perennial contenders and doing everything they can to get to the Finals each year, I think he'd stay.

Players like Lebron, Wade and Dwight are now showing that it's about winning championships, not about playing in New York or LA.

The Jazz are in a good position to keep an elite player at the wing if Favors, Burke and Hayward pan out to give that player a strong supporting cast. In other words, they're building in the right sequence.

The Jazz are doing the right thing to lay the foundation of a good team with the young players we have now, so when a big star comes in, he's not alone.
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I agree, its nothing against the states per say but more about marketability and winning. LeBron spends plenty of time in Ohio and Deron is in Utah often.

But Utah was successful and Deron wasn't staying. The Cavs were successful and LeBron didn't stay. CP3 only wanted to go to LA or NYC.
 
Hack said:
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Repped.
Very nice blu.....hack
 
Let's say this is the 2003 draft with plenty of great players, would you draft anyone but Lebron James just because of some pathetic insecurity?
 
And BTW, the Cavs did a bad job building around Lebron. Their only homegrown player that they got that was really any good bolted to Utah because the owner was shady and they hired a coach that had no interest in holding Lebron accountable for anything (their "offense" was Lebron doing whatever he wanted, didn't challenge him to grow his skillset beyond what he came in with, and let him be a mediocre defender). The best player that Lebron played with while he was there was, what, Mo Williams? Shaq was WAYYY over-the-hill and a bad fit, and Jamison was also over-the-hill and too little too late. And what did he get them besides years of undeserved success that no one else in that draft could've dreamed of? Well, exactly that, but nothing more, because they didn't deserve it.

Players will stay if they think their best chance to win is where they're at. If the Jazz are so miraculously fortunate to have the first pick of the draft next year, their job is first to draft BPA and second to field a team that is impossible to walk from. If worrying about if that player will leave in 7 years affects their decision, then they don't deserve to be in the NBA.
 
Also BTW, I would never even pretend to entertain the notion that the Jazz get a major talent next year in the draft, but if they do, I think Burke will mesh very well and that's one reason I like him.
 
Beantown said:
But Utah was successful and Deron wasn't staying. The Cavs were successful and LeBron didn't stay. CP3 only wanted to go to LA or NYC.
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Yeah, but here's the thing.... the Jazz didn't want to sign Boozer again for $80 million (his contract with Chicago). The Jazz probably didn't want to sign DWill for $100 million (his contract with Brooklyn). The Jazz didn't want to sign AK to another $30 million (or whatever his deal is). The Jazz front office wanted to dismantle that team and rebuild.

I think DWill might have stayed if the team were moving in a positive direction, but it was going into a rebuild. That's a bigger issue than market size. DWill wasn't happy about going to the Nets, and since then he hasn't won a single playoff series.

Any team that is going to draft and ultimately retain a superstar player needs to make sure they have a solid plan to build a contending team. Otherwise, that superstar is going to look elsewhere. Bringing in some good players like AK, Boozer, Korver and Okur gets the team to the 2nd round of the playoffs. That doesn't satisfy a superstar who thinks he can do more.
 
I completely disagree that the Jazz traded Deron with the purpose of a rebuild. It was a matter of necessity, as was this (dragging-feet) rebuild. Grabbing Al Jefferson was their last-ditch attempt at building a contender and the attempt fell flatly on it's own face and Deron knew it. The Jazz traded Deron because they knew they were getting worse, but MORE IMPORTANTLY, they did it because they knew DERON knew it was getting worse. That, and the bedrock of Jazz basketball had just left. If you're suggesting that the Jazz didn't try to make 2010-2011 work then I suggest that you're up in the night.

Deron was no longer in a good situation here. The difference between the Jazz and those other teams is that the Jazz were smart enough to know where that was all headed.
 
The Jazz should be a dream for every young wing with All-Star potential.

Favors, Kanter, Hayward, Burks and Burke. No other team in the NBA has so many young players with tons of potential.

Add Wiggins and let them grow together: Championship!

Favors - Aldrich - Gobert
Kanter - Landry - Evans
Wiggins - Webster - Carroll
Hayward - Burks
Burke - Maynor - Tinsley
 
NUMBERICA said:
I completely disagree that the Jazz traded Deron with the purpose of a rebuild. It was a matter of necessity, as was this (dragging-feet) rebuild. Grabbing Al Jefferson was their last-ditch attempt at building a contender and the attempt fell flatly on it's own face and Deron knew it. The Jazz traded Deron because they knew they were getting worse, but MORE IMPORTANTLY, they did it because they knew DERON knew it was getting worse. That, and the bedrock of Jazz basketball had just left. If you're suggesting that the Jazz didn't try to make 2010-2011 work then I suggest that you're up in the night.

Deron was no longer in a good situation here. The difference between the Jazz and those other teams is that the Jazz were smart enough to know where that was all headed.
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I agree with you, but let me put it this way: a team where DWill is a superstar max player isn't getting past the 2nd round--unless another player like Lebron is on the team. The Jazz knew this and they traded him out to a desperate team (Nets) when his value was at its peak. It was a good basketball decision.

Concurrently, the risk of losing DWill for nothing is also a good reason for trading him. That's valid, and that's the cover story.

In the final analysis, the Jazz fleeced the Nets, and that's what's most important.
 
Catchall said:
I agree with you, but let me put it this way: a team where DWill is a superstar max player isn't getting past the 2nd round--unless another player like Lebron is on the team. The Jazz knew this and they traded him out to a desperate team (Nets) when his value was at its peak. It was a good basketball decision.

Concurrently, the risk of losing DWill for nothing is also a good reason for trading him. That's valid, and that's the cover story.

In the final analysis, the Jazz fleeced the Nets, and that's what's most important.
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The Jazz saw the writing on the wall so they traded DW which helped tremendously with the rebuild and DW went to an organization that can and will spend money to build a championship contender.
 
Catchall said:
Do you think the Nets are a contender now?

DWill
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce
KG
Brook Lopez
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If all those were in there prime, it would be.

So many questions marks with injuries and age. Its hard to tell. If they all can get a season in healthy then they might have a shot.
 
NUMBERICA said:
And BTW, the Cavs did a bad job building around Lebron. Their only homegrown player that they got that was really any good bolted to Utah because the owner was shady and they hired a coach that had no interest in holding Lebron accountable for anything (their "offense" was Lebron doing whatever he wanted, didn't challenge him to grow his skillset beyond what he came in with, and let him be a mediocre defender). The best player that Lebron played with while he was there was, what, Mo Williams? Shaq was WAYYY over-the-hill and a bad fit, and Jamison was also over-the-hill and too little too late. And what did he get them besides years of undeserved success that no one else in that draft could've dreamed of? Well, exactly that, but nothing more, because they didn't deserve it.

Players will stay if they think their best chance to win is where they're at. If the Jazz are so miraculously fortunate to have the first pick of the draft next year, their job is first to draft BPA and second to field a team that is impossible to walk from. If worrying about if that player will leave in 7 years affects their decision, then they don't deserve to be in the NBA.
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Larry Hughes. Lol
 
Beantown said:
If you are thinking that it's not likely and the Jazz had the #1 pick would they be smart to trade down and select Jabari Parker?


Or is Wiggins so much better than Parker that its worth the gamble?
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Do you literally think if **** ideas and think to yourself, "this is worthy of a thread on jazzfanz.com!" Cause if so, please log out of life.
 
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