Would you trade #5 + Favors for the #1 pick?

[Jazz Spazz]

Read an article on back injuries. Now an expert.

Would definitely trade 5, Favors, and the collection of retired jerseys ( minus the statues) for the #1 pick and Joel "Plastic Man" Embiid.

P.S. Call me if you have back issues, for a nominal fee I will give you some great advice.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

NJ traded Favors, Kanter, Harris and the ability to trade for Burke for Deron.

Embiid will be a lot better than Deron.

Why do we overvalue our **** so much?

Favors and Hayward are all we have that have any sort of tangible value. We might luck out that we can't trade Hayward.

I'd do Favors, Kanter and Burks plus our #5 and even our #23 for #1.

Then build around Embiid and Hayward. Add Bledsoe or Lowry, Pau Gasol and Deng and damn. We are suddenly much better and Cleveland still sucks.

Dude, Williams was an actual All-Star. Embiid hasn't played in a single NBA game yet.

 

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NJ traded Favors, Kanter, Harris and the ability to trade for Burke for Deron.

Embiid will be a lot better than Deron.

Why do we overvalue our **** so much?

Favors and Hayward are all we have that have any sort of tangible value. We might luck out that we can't trade Hayward.

I'd do Favors, Kanter and Burks plus our #5 and even our #23 for #1.

Then build around Embiid and Hayward. Add Bledsoe or Lowry, Pau Gasol and Deng and damn. We are suddenly much better and Cleveland still sucks.

you get sooo high

it's awesome braugh

 

[green]

Dude, Williams was an actual All-Star. Embiid hasn't played in a single NBA game yet.

Since 2000, the #1 pick has been an All Star 74% of the time. The only busts were Brown, Barngani and Bennet. And Embiid's name doesnt start with a "B", so we're good.

Seriously, I don't think anyone would trade Deron in his prime for Wiggins or Embiid.

So, we'd have to give up a lot to get to #1, but it would be worth it.

 

[MVP]

Would not even think for a second. To bad there would be no stupid GM who would do it, Favors is not worth it.

 

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Since 2000, the #1 pick has been an All Star 74% of the time. The only busts were Brown, Barngani and Bennet. And Embiid's name doesnt start with a "B", so we're good.

Seriously, I don't think anyone would trade Deron in his prime for Wiggins or Embiid.

So, we'd have to give up a lot to get to #1, but it would be worth it.

Clearly.

This is open-and-shut. Like golden-colored drugs.

 

[Beantown]

Yes because Kanter/Gobert could be an awesome combo. They fit perfectly together.

 

[silesian]

Deron

NJ traded Favors, Kanter, Harris and the ability to trade for Burke for Deron.

And only for 18 months of Deron, counting on their ability to re-sign him.

Question: even knowing that he re-signed, how'd that work our for the Nets? Do you think they'd want a do-over?

 

[MVP]

Would not even think for a second. To bad there would be no stupid GM who would do it, Favors is not worth it.

 

[fishonjazz]

NJ traded Favors, Kanter, Harris and the ability to trade for Burke for Deron.

Who would you say won that trade?

I feel like we robbed nj in that deal.

I dont feel like helping cleveland rob us

 

[GVC]

I find it strange that people think Utah won that trade. The Jazz have a **** team with average-ish young talent. The Nets are decent. The Nets will have the opportunity to re-tool in a few years. The Jazz will likely still suck AND be capped out. Who won the trade? The Nets.

 

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I find it strange that people think Utah won that trade. The Jazz have a **** team with average-ish young talent. The Nets are decent. The Nets will have the opportunity to re-tool in a few years. The Jazz will likely still suck AND be capped out. Who won the trade? The Nets.

The Deron-era had peaked and was collapsing. And, there were a lot of indications Deron was leaving. What else was there to do except grab some assets?

I think the argument about who won and who lost is pretty mind-numbing. I understand KOC's thought process, and I think he got good value for Deron.

It's the 3 years of treading water after the trade that boggles the mind.

 

[fishonjazz]

I find it strange that people think Utah won that trade. The Jazz have a **** team with average-ish young talent. The Nets are decent. The Nets will have the opportunity to re-tool in a few years. The Jazz will likely still suck AND be capped out. Who won the trade? The Nets.

If our guys never improve then your are correct.

I think EVERY one of them will improve.
Meantime d will is only getting worse.... oh and how about that 20 million per year contract if we are talking about being capped out.

How much cap space do those nets have anyways? are pierce and garnett in thier prime? Is lopez healthy (we already covered d will)

The nets are not better than the jazz because they traded for d will imo...... i think they are better because DL put together a tank roster, the nets play in the east, and thier owning dont give a **** bout overspending like crazy

 

[GVC]

The Deron-era had peaked and was collapsing. And, there were a lot of indications Deron was leaving. What else was there to do except grab some assets?

I think the argument about who won and who lost is pretty mind-numbing. I understand KOC's thought process, and I think he got good value for Deron.

It was the 3 years of treading water after the trade that boggles the mind.

Agreed. The Jazz did well.

I don't think the Nets regret the trade, however. They're doing alright.

 

[GVC]

If our guys never improve then your are correct.

I think EVERY one of them will improve.
Meantime d will is only getting worse.... oh and how about that 20 million per year contract if we are talking about being capped out.

How much cap space do those nets have anyways? are pierce and garnett in thier prime? Is lopez healthy (we already covered d will)

The nets are not better than the jazz because they traded for d will imo...... i think they are better because DL put together a tank roster, the nets play in the east, and thier owning dont give a **** bout overspending like crazy

The Jazz won't be contending before Deron expires in 2017.

Also, Deron's still better than any player on the Jazz roster. He also led a playoff team in net +/- fwiw. He's not close to the player he was, but he's not nearly as bad as some on this board seem to think.

 

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Agreed. The Jazz did well.

I don't think the Nets regret the trade, however. They're doing alright.

We'd be doing better, too, if we had a billionaire with money flying out of his *** and no fear of making decisions. Man, looking back over these last few years.... the only thing that makes sense is a lot of fear and conservatism in the face of a power vacuum. Greg Miller is obviously teh bomb.

Glad we agree, though.

 

[Beantown]

I find it strange that people think Utah won that trade. The Jazz have a **** team with average-ish young talent. The Nets are decent. The Nets will have the opportunity to re-tool in a few years. The Jazz will likely still suck AND be capped out. Who won the trade? The Nets.

How can the Nets retool? They have no assetts.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think if we traded kanter, favors, and burke for d will we wouldnt be much better off financially and with his broken body we probably wouldnt be much better on the court

And all of us would be sick of him but because of his contract and health issue he would be untradeable.

We would be begging teams to take him from us

 

[GVC]

How can the Nets retool? They have no assetts.

If they let everyone go, they'll have an attractive market, cap space and an owner willing to spend. In 3 years.

 

[GVC]

I think if we traded kanter, favors, and burke for d will we wouldnt be much better off financially and with his broken body we probably wouldnt be much better on the court

And all of us would be sick of him but because of his contract and health issue he would be untradeable.

We would be begging teams to take him from us

True. I overstated for effect. I don't think either team regrets the trade. Both teams did alright considering their respective situations.