yet another stupid death in children gun related accident...yes, in USA of course.

[Dumb Bloke]

I have three fire extinguishers in my house...yet I've never had a house fire, nor have I known anyone who's had a house fire, and I see stories in the paper about once every couple years about someone whose house burned down.


I'd like to see some actual stats, but I imagine the anti-gun crowd think there are 100 deaths/injuries due to accidental shootings compared to every one time a gun protected anyone. My guess is that accidental shootings are more rare than people protecting themselves with a gun.

The oft quoted "a gun in the house is more likely to kill a family member than an intruder" is counting suicides and domestic violence assaults.

We should require a gun in every home like we require smoke and CO monitors. That would solve 99.9% of our crime problems.

 

[Beer]

We should require a gun in every home like we require smoke and CO monitors. That would solve 99.9% of our crime problems.

You can't honestly believe that.

 

[nightmare3983]

We should require a gun in every home like we require smoke and CO monitors. That would solve 99.9% of our crime problems.

You can't honestly believe that.

You can't honestly believe that a troll such as Dumb Bloke honestly believes that.

 

[Dumb Bloke]

You can't honestly believe that.

I like stats. The country with the highest gun density has basically no crime. Switzerland requires every man to serve in the army and own guns. Guess there imprisonment rate for violent crimes?

 

[Beer]

I like stats. The country with the highest gun density has basically no crime. Switzerland requires every man to serve in the army and own guns. Guess there imprisonment rate for violent crimes?

According to the stat you just threw out I'd have to guess 0.01% .... I'd tie that more to culture than to guns in the home. There are a **** ton of guns in the ghetto and theres a **** ton of violent crime.

 

[MVP]

I like stats. The country with the highest gun density has basically no crime. Switzerland requires every man to serve in the army and own guns. Guess there imprisonment rate for violent crimes?

lol you may want to check Japan in that regard before spewing nonsense.

 

[Stoked]

I like stats. The country with the highest gun density has basically no crime. Switzerland requires every man to serve in the army and own guns. Guess there imprisonment rate for violent crimes?

According to the stat you just threw out I'd have to guess 0.01% .... I'd tie that more to culture than to guns in the home. There are a **** ton of guns in the ghetto and theres a **** ton of violent crime.

I wonder how much of that is from mandatory military service.

 

[Gameface]

I like stats. The country with the highest gun density has basically no crime. Switzerland requires every man to serve in the army and own guns. Guess there imprisonment rate for violent crimes?

I think forced military service and forced firearm ownership is morally wrong.

 

[Dumb Bloke]

I think forced military service and forced firearm ownership is morally wrong.

See this is the problem with right wing libertarianism. You are all willing to allow society to force things youre against on you against your will but you're not willing to use the same strategy to force stuff you are in favor of.

Take like Obamacare for example. The whole reason right wingers were against it was cause it forced people to buy healthcare. Well guess what they are forcing you to pay for there healthcare so why shouldn't you force them to pay for there own?

Same thing goes for gun ownership. You are already forced to pay for the criminals that non-gun owners allow so why not force non-gun owners to lower your tax burden themselves?

 

[Dumb Bloke]

As far as forced millitary yeah I agree. I was pointing out why they all own guns. Forced millitary is worse than shariah law imo.

 

[Gameface]

See this is the problem with right wing libertarianism. You are all willing to allow society to force things youre against on you against your will but you're not willing to use the same strategy to force stuff you are in favor of.

Take like Obamacare for example. The whole reason right wingers were against it was cause it forced people to buy healthcare. Well guess what they are forcing you to pay for there healthcare so why shouldn't you force them to pay for there own?

Same thing goes for gun ownership. You are already forced to pay for the criminals that non-gun owners allow so why not force non-gun owners to lower your tax burden themselves?

I'll wait for a right wing libertarian to answer.