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yet another stupid death in children gun related accident...yes, in USA of course.

MVP

MVP

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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/woman-shot-killed-walmart-idaho-her-toddler-reports-204113892.html

Now you gun apologists will come with bunch of excuses why somebody needs a gun in the middle of the day while shopping in Walmart in Hayden , Idaho.
I know, I know, your rights to carry guns. Whatever. Mom paid the price for exactly that type of stupid mentality. At least I hope toddler is to young to be traumatized by all this experience. Hopefully nobody will tell him how his mom died when he will ask one day.
 
AKMVP said:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/woman-shot-killed-walmart-idaho-her-toddler-reports-204113892.html

Now you gun apologists will come with bunch of excuses why somebody needs a gun in the middle of the day while shopping in Walmart in Hayden , Idaho.
I know, I know, your rights to carry guns. Whatever. Mom paid the price for exactly that type of stupid mentality. At least I hope toddler is to young to be traumatized by all this experience. Hopefully nobody will tell him how his mom died when he will ask one day.
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Few thoughts.

Tragic loss due to carelesness.
No need to justify or explain their right to you or anyone else, no matter how much you hate it.
Keep on hating.
 
Every 2 year old needs a gun, especially in Idaho. Deal with it.
 
Stoked said:
Tragic loss due to carelesness.
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See, that's were we differ. I think it is stupidity. There is not a single justifiable reason for young woman to carry loaded gun in Walmart in Hayden ( been there, very safe and quiet place I think I may have even been to that Walmart as well ). It is wrong mentality, education, tradition, laws and general approach to guns that results in these numerous gun related death accidents in USA. Yet you keep thinking it is carelessness. Until you Americans change your mentality when it comes to guns it will keep happening.
 
AKMVP said:
See, that's were we differ. I think it is stupidity. There is not a single justifiable reason for young women to carry loaded gun in Walmart in Hayden ( been there, very safe and quiet place I think I may have even ben to that Walmart as well ). It is wrong mentality, education, tradition, laws and general approach to guns that results in these numerous gun related death accidents in USA. Yet you keep thinking it is carelessness. Until you Americans change your mentality when it comes to guns it will keep happening.
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I agree. Strongly.
 
AKMVP said:
See, that's were we differ. I think it is stupidity. There is not a single justifiable reason for young woman to carry loaded gun in Walmart in Hayden ( been there, very safe and quiet place I think I may have even been to that Walmart as well ). It is wrong mentality, education, tradition, laws and general approach to guns that results in these numerous gun related death accidents in USA. Yet you keep thinking it is carelessness. Until you Americans change your mentality when it comes to guns it will keep happening.
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In your opinion. That is all this boils down to.

I am for sensible, in my opinion, requirements to own a gun and carry.

Such as gun safety classes and linking mental health records to background checks.
 
AKMVP said:
See, that's were we differ. I think it is stupidity. There is not a single justifiable reason for young woman to carry loaded gun in Walmart in Hayden ( been there, very safe and quiet place I think I may have even been to that Walmart as well ). It is wrong mentality, education, tradition, laws and general approach to guns that results in these numerous gun related death accidents in USA. Yet you keep thinking it is carelessness. Until you Americans change your mentality when it comes to guns it will keep happening.
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Maybe she had been raped before, and feared for her life, and maybe she was receiving death threats from a redneck ex who threatened to steal her child and kill her dog and park a car in her yard, so she felt she would be safer with a means to protect herself. Without knowing what was going on in her life and in her head how you can make blanket judgements against everyone simply boggles the mind.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Maybe she had been raped before, and feared for her life, and maybe she was receiving death threats from a redneck ex who threatened to steal her child and kill her dog and park a car in her yard, so she felt she would be safer with a means to protect herself. Without knowing what was going on in her life and in her head how you can make blanket judgements against everyone simply boggles the mind.
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Why would he stop now?
 
AKMVP said:
See, that's were we differ. I think it is stupidity. There is not a single justifiable reason for young woman to carry loaded gun in Walmart in Hayden ( been there, very safe and quiet place I think I may have even been to that Walmart as well ). It is wrong mentality, education, tradition, laws and general approach to guns that results in these numerous gun related death accidents in USA. Yet you keep thinking it is carelessness. Until you Americans change your mentality when it comes to guns it will keep happening.
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You never know when or where a deranged person will commit a mass shooting. It can happen anywhere.
 
I personally will carry a gun anywhere I damn well please. And it will never ever accidentally kill me or anyone else, because I am a responsible concealed carrier.
This is a tragic accident/situation that could have been prevented. I feel badly for this lady, her family, and anyone else affected....but intelligence and common sense prevent most of these kinds of accidents. And yes, sometimes there are just freak accidents.
The number of accidental shooting deaths is infinitesimal when compared with the number of people who own/carry guns.
 
AKMVP said:
See, that's were we differ. I think it is stupidity. There is not a single justifiable reason for young woman to carry loaded gun in Walmart in Hayden ( been there, very safe and quiet place I think I may have even been to that Walmart as well ). It is wrong mentality, education, tradition, laws and general approach to guns that results in these numerous gun related death accidents in USA. Yet you keep thinking it is carelessness. Until you Americans change your mentality when it comes to guns it will keep happening.
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It's not necessary to drive a car while running an errand that's only one mile away. Yet how many people die from car accidents on such errands? Do you feel that we should make short car trips illegal?
 
colton said:
It's not necessary to drive a car while running an errand that's only one mile away. Yet how many people die from car accidents on such errands? Do you feel that we should make short car trips illegal?
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In this country we make tons of things illegal when we believe there is a public safety reason for it. Which I always found sorta bizarre since the zeitgeist of this country is all about personal freedom, yet the laws don't always reflect it.

However I doubt anything that 80% or whatever of the country owns/does will be made illegal. Taking away freedoms tends to apply to those actions that a minority of the population practices.
 
colton said:
It's not necessary to drive a car while running an errand that's only one mile away. Yet how many people die from car accidents on such errands? Do you feel that we should make short car trips illegal?
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I never said it should be illegal ( to carry the gun). Problem is with American mentality. No sane person would ever consider taking gun while shopping at 10 am in Walmart, lol that is just pathetic state of mind. Have your gun at home safely locked in case of burglary or something like that for self defense. Why would you need it while shopping? WHY????????
 
Farmer.Tan said:
I personally will carry a gun anywhere I damn well please. And it will never ever accidentally kill me or anyone else, because I am a responsible concealed carrier.
This is a tragic accident/situation that could have been prevented. I feel badly for this lady, her family, and anyone else affected....but intelligence and common sense prevent most of these kinds of accidents. And yes, sometimes there are just freak accidents.
The number of accidental shooting deaths is infinitesimal when compared with the number of people who own/carry guns.
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Why is it so much more common in USA? Swiss have more guns per capita than Americans yet their gun related accident numbers are much lower.
 
AKMVP said:
I never said it should be illegal ( to carry the gun). Problem is with American mentality. No sane person would ever consider taking gun while shopping at 10 am in Walmart, lol that is just pathetic state of mind. Have your gun at home safely locked in case of burglary or something like that for self defense. Why would you need it while shopping? WHY????????
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Why would you need a gun in a damn elementary school at 10:00 am?
Why would you need one in an Ahmish school house?
Why would you need one In a shopping mall days before Christmas?
Why would you need one in a rural high school?
The list goes on and on....
The answer....because psychotic ******** can show up anywhere.
That and the zombie apocalypse.
 
Farmer.Tan said:
Why would you need a gun in a damn elementary school at 10:00 am?
Why would you need one in an Ahmish school house?
Why would you need one In a shopping mall days before Christmas?
Why would you need one in a rural high school?
The list goes on and on....
The answer....because psychotic ******** can show up anywhere.
That and the zombie apocalypse.
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The answer should be - you do not need a gun in any of theses situations.
Meteor can hit you on the head while walking outside. Based on your logic you should wear helmet anytime you step outside.
 
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