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You own the #2 pick. Wiggins went #1. Utah owns the #3 pick.

mellow said:
Give me the Mormon Barkley to play with favors, burks and Burke. Gobert off the bench and whatever else the jazz can put together.

Keep the gs pick if you can.
Enes is trade fodder.

Embilid might be the next david Robinson but

1-bigs take longer to develope and I want to see some winning now.
2-jazz have 'developed' Enes for 3 years and.....
3-there is another big in every draft, and every year that guy is going to be the next....whoever.
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Great post even though I disagree.
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I LOVE the Idea of getting Parker. Do what you have to and move up and get him. If you can trade Kanter and your pick, then you could have Burke, Hayward, Parker, Favors, Gobert/FA/WCS with GS pick (long shot I know). You can also go small with Burke, Burks, Hayward, Parker, Favors. If you have to give up the GS pick to move from 6-7 to 2, then do it. If it's from 3 to 2, I'd offer Kanter, but nothing more, maybe a 2nd. Take Embiid at #3 and hope for Young with the GS pick.
 
mellow said:
Give me the Mormon Barkley to play with favors, burks and Burke. Gobert off the bench and whatever else the jazz can put together.

Keep the gs pick if you can.
Enes is trade fodder.

Embilid might be the next david Robinson but

1-bigs take longer to develope and I want to see some winning now.
2-jazz have 'developed' Enes for 3 years and.....
3-there is another big in every draft, and every year that guy is going to be the next....whoever.
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To be fair. The Jazz haven't developed Kanter. They put him on the shelf and just hoped he would develop.
 
The Thriller said:
I like our chances of resigning Parker with the whole religious connection. Wiggins screams Miami, New York, or LA to me. Flashy talented athlete.
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Well at least you haven't followed a single moment of the kid's career, obviously, to arrive at that conclusion.
 
green said:
Would you trade the #2 for #3, Kanter and the GS pick (let's say it's 11-13 range).

Basically, you are trading Parker for Randle/Exum/Embiid/Gordon/Smart, Kanter and another pick. You could draft Smart and Young and you would have traded Parker for a starting PG, SG, and PF. Is that enough for a kid that will come in and score 20 ppg his rookie year?
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If I were another team then yes I would do it but I wouldn't if I were the Jazz. That is way too much to give up. You don't think Kanter #3 and GS pick can't match or exceed the #2 pick's numbers.

Say Parker comes in and averages 21 pts and 7 rebounds. I rest assure that Exum/Embiid + Kanter + GS pick (14th pick) could easily match those numbers put up by Parker.
 
Crawlnstall said:
How much of a project does Embiid look to be? I really like what I've seen from Parker and Wiggins, but Embiid seems like he may take longer to develop. Big men always do. I want to believe that Kanter can be our center for the future but I can't ever see him getting great solid playing time.
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The problem with Kanter is he isn't a center nor is Favors. They are both PFs. Kanter is talent and I believe he will figure it out but I would certainly trade him for a shot to draft Embiid (yes I know it would take more than Kanter).
 
PKM said:
Well at least you haven't followed a single moment of the kid's career, obviously, to arrive at that conclusion.
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Right

Wiggins is shy, reserved, and from canada.
 
I don't think Kanter and Burks (and a combination of our picks) is enough bait to lure a #2 pick away, they'll probably want Hayward involved (or in place of one of the two Jazz men). Would you do it?
 
PKM said:
Well at least you haven't followed a single moment of the kid's career, obviously, to arrive at that conclusion.
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Wait, there's a difference between Topeka, KS and New York, Miami, or LA? Perish the thought.
 
akirac73 said:
I don't think Kanter and Burks (and a combination of our picks) is enough bait to lure a #2 pick away, they'll probably want Hayward involved (or in place of one of the two Jazz men). Would you do it?
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Absolutely. What makes superstars great is they are cheap. You trade away Hayward and Kanter (27 million per year) and they average 30 a night. Parker costs you 9 per on a rookie deal, averages 23, is one player instead of two, etc, etc. You essentially replace the production of two players with one player. If the Jazz were #3 and #2 wanted #3, Kanter, Burks, Hayward, GS pick and Burks, I'd do it. Those players are all replaceable. Parker is not. We can't get a Parker to come here. We can get those players back.
 
cowhide said:
If I were another team then yes I would do it but I wouldn't if I were the Jazz. That is way too much to give up. You don't think Kanter #3 and GS pick can't match or exceed the #2 pick's numbers.

Say Parker comes in and averages 21 pts and 7 rebounds. I rest assure that Exum/Embiid + Kanter + GS pick (14th pick) could easily match those numbers put up by Parker.
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You are using, playing and paying TWO players to do what one could do.
 
It is not really about statistical production, it is about a chance at a superstar. Which two players do you trade for LeBron?
 
Just wondering, does anyone know, or care to irrationally speculate who Milwaukee covet?

Do they like the Canadian kid? Or do the see more value in the humble Chicago kid?
 
mellow said:
Just wondering, does anyone know, or care to irrationally speculate who Milwaukee covet?

Do they like the Canadian kid? Or do the see more value in the humble Chicago kid?
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They need Jabari more than Wiggins, imo... and he's close to home.
 
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