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Your (realistic) dream roster for the 13-14 season

Is anyone else worried starting the entire C4? I'm sure they'd share the ball, but the shots would be spread a little thin.

I would start PG, Hayward, Marvin, Favors, Kanter, and then let Burks play sixth man. Marvin is passive enough to play stander in the corner with the first unit, which would allow Burks to be creative with the second unit.
 
PG Jack/McCollum/Burks
SG OJ Mayo/Burks/Foye
SF Hayward/Dunleavy/Junkyard Dog
PF Kanter/Hickson/Evans
C Favors/Kaman/Adams

+2nd round pick
 
I'm warming up to McCollum.
NBA Size, shoots the ball extremely well, senior guard.
Shoots off the dribble (really good for PnRs)
Very high release point
Plays tranisition fairly well.
Can shoot the curl up jumper a la Harpring.
EDIT- Can shoot off the curl coming left OR right! Damn that's really special.
Additionally, the Foye/Burks/Hayward lineup worked extremely well proves that we just need a ball handler and not necessarily a pass first PG.

[video=youtube_share;omY6v5jJIjw]https://youtu.be/omY6v5jJIjw
 
Laughing out loud at all the people complaining about fans wanting Jack or Calderon and saying we need a franchise point guard. Ok. Who do we get?

Would you rather have Mo then? Or a subpar rookie point guard? Or are you banking on convincing CP3 to come here? I'm confused...
 
Laughing out loud at all the people complaining about fans wanting Jack or Calderon and saying we need a franchise point guard. Ok. Who do we get?

Would you rather have Mo then? Or a subpar rookie point guard? Or are you banking on convincing CP3 to come here? I'm confused...

No, I am just not convinced that Jack and Calderon are not going to disappoint as much as Mo and Harris have. I would rather have a young guy that we are taking a chance on and have Jack or Calderon to tie us over until that guy takes over as a starter. I just don't think that Jack or Calderon are the answer for a long term piece at point guard. That does not mean that I think we are going to get CP3. I would rather have someone like Lillard who can grow with the team. I know we are not getting Lillard, so we should be looking for someone in the draft, or a young guy like Bledsoe or Teague, and I am not even completely sold on those guys either, as I think they are going to be too expensive for what they are worth.
 
No, I am just not convinced that Jack and Calderon are not going to disappoint as much as Mo and Harris have. I would rather have a young guy that we are taking a chance on and have Jack or Calderon to tie us over until that guy takes over as a starter. I just don't think that Jack or Calderon are the answer for a long term piece at point guard. That does not mean that I think we are going to get CP3. I would rather have someone like Lillard who can grow with the team. I know we are not getting Lillard, so we should be looking for someone in the draft, or a young guy like Bledsoe or Teague, and I am not even completely sold on those guys either, as I think they are going to be too expensive for what they are worth.

Well that's fair. That's the exact same thing I'm thinking. I don't want to start the core four and a rookie point guard, so I'd rather grab Jack or Calderon and bring in a rookie to play back up. That isn't what you or anyone else in this thread said before, though.
 
No, I am just not convinced that Jack and Calderon are not going to disappoint as much as Mo and Harris have. I would rather have a young guy that we are taking a chance on and have Jack or Calderon to tie us over until that guy takes over as a starter. I just don't think that Jack or Calderon are the answer for a long term piece at point guard. That does not mean that I think we are going to get CP3. I would rather have someone like Lillard who can grow with the team. I know we are not getting Lillard, so we should be looking for someone in the draft, or a young guy like Bledsoe or Teague, and I am not even completely sold on those guys either, as I think they are going to be too expensive for what they are worth.

I think what you want is the best, however it may not be the most realistic. That Lillard type player doesn't grow on trees.
I'd rather have McCollum or another prospect over Jack or Calderon because they could turn out to be better. You pretty much know
what you are getting with the vets. Bledsoe seems to be overrated on this board though. Is he really the pass first PG leader this team needs?
Maybe he is, but he sure doesn't look that way to be. Doesn't he play like a 2 or 3, but he's stuck inside a PGs body?

Hopefully our FO wants what you want, but the more realistic option is that we end up with one of those average vets.
Let's expect the worst, and pray for the best.
 
Both Jack and Calderon have been effective as starters and reserves. If you can sign one of them on the cheap, with the understanding that they'll start until an adequate replacement is found, and then mentor that replacement, you do it. Despite my past hate for Calderon, he'd be a decent signing for this team (even if his conservative style isn't a great fit with Utah's young talent). He's steady, under control, makes the right pass, and is a knock down spotup shooter (he won't help getting out in transition or setting the tone defensively, and tends to pound the ball a little much, but beggars can't be choosers).
 
Both Jack and Calderon have been effective as starters and reserves. If you can sign one of them on the cheap, with the understanding that they'll start until an adequate replacement is found, and then mentor that replacement, you do it. Despite my past hate for Calderon, he'd be a decent signing for this team (even if his conservative style isn't a great fit with Utah's young talent). He's steady, under control, makes the right pass, and is a knock down spotup shooter (he won't help getting out in transition or setting the tone defensively, and tends to pound the ball a little much, but beggars can't be choosers).

I would agree with this. Assuming that we address our PG situation via the draft (my hope), we will inevitably bring him off the bench first for developmental reasons- meaning it'll either be Papa Tins starting ahead of him, OR we will have to pic-up a stop-gap PG that could be useful both in terms of decent rotation minutes, AND mentoring.

Jack and Calderon both suit this role well. I lean towards Calderon, as Jack will probably be getting a pretty big contract.
 
Both Jack and Calderon have been effective as starters and reserves. If you can sign one of them on the cheap, with the understanding that they'll start until an adequate replacement is found, and then mentor that replacement, you do it. Despite my past hate for Calderon, he'd be a decent signing for this team (even if his conservative style isn't a great fit with Utah's young talent). He's steady, under control, makes the right pass, and is a knock down spotup shooter (he won't help getting out in transition or setting the tone defensively, and tends to pound the ball a little much, but beggars can't be choosers).

Did you read my post and copy it? How about my usual baseless opinions? See, people who are not you have valid opinions as well.


Originally Posted by b_line
No, I am just not convinced that Jack and Calderon are not going to disappoint as much as Mo and Harris have. I would rather have a young guy that we are taking a chance on and have Jack or Calderon to tie us over until that guy takes over as a starter. I just don't think that Jack or Calderon are the answer for a long term piece at point guard. That does not mean that I think we are going to get CP3. I would rather have someone like Lillard who can grow with the team. I know we are not getting Lillard, so we should be looking for someone in the draft, or a young guy like Bledsoe or Teague, and I am not even completely sold on those guys either, as I think they are going to be too expensive for what they are worth.
 
PG Jack/McCollum/Burks
SG OJ Mayo/Burks/Foye
SF Hayward/Dunleavy/Junkyard Dog
PF Kanter/Hickson/Evans
C Favors/Kaman/Adams

+2nd round pick

This is very similar to what I was thinking. Possibly Tony Allen or Tyreke in the OJ spot. Maybe Carl Laundry in the PF spot
Marvin Williams will be back because he opts in so probably no Dunleavy. If we wanted to go young we could look at Eric Maynor if the Jazz still like him.
 
Teague/ Mo/ Burks
Hayward/ Burks/ Foye
Marvin /Hayward/ Carroll
Kanter/ Landry(Millsap if he wants to stay) / Evans
Favors/ Plumlee

I don't care if we overpay Teague we really need a young Pg to go with young core and we can expect to grow into that contract. We can draft Giannis Adetokunbo with the other pick and let him develop in Europe but that may not be possible with hype growing.

I think that this group can be competitive and you would at least see the effort. We may be a lot more frustrating at the end of the games but C4 came along slowly and it's time for them to take responsibility.
 
WE need a cloning mashine...

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