Following potential 2015 draftees
- Thread starter Dr. Jones
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I think Oubre is going to be good, but not necessarily great--a solid starter and quality 3/D player with athleticism and length who will hit open shots, defend passing lanes and run out on breaks. If he can tighten his handle, work on his first step and play above the rim, he could be an All Star-caliber player. It's not entirely out the question, but it comes down to his mental make-up. He has a lot of athleticism, just needs to get stronger and finish at the rim. If he can do that, he might be the best 2-way wing of the bunch. He and Hezonja are much more advanced offensively than Johnson and Winslow, imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYrO1DV1q8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYrO1DV1q8A
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zyzz
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He has bad eyesight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqlanK8BMI&feature=youtu.be
I'm warming up to Winslow. If we pick him around 10-12 I'll be happy. I'd be less comfortable picking him where we originally thought we would be picking (around #6). When it's draft time I think he or Hezonja will be the first wing taken.
Other consideration:
May the Jazz prefer Euro/International players in general?
The players get their endorsement deals in their original countries regardless which team they play for.
No team other than the Lakers/Bulls has any special popularity over here, so they're less likely to go to medium markets(I know Dragic just did exactly that...)
Celtics are from a time when satellite television wasn't in most households and the game itself was way less popular than it is today.
May the Jazz prefer Euro/International players in general?
The players get their endorsement deals in their original countries regardless which team they play for.
No team other than the Lakers/Bulls has any special popularity over here, so they're less likely to go to medium markets(I know Dragic just did exactly that...)
Celtics are from a time when satellite television wasn't in most households and the game itself was way less popular than it is today.
freakazoid
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American players = dont like Utah, because small market, overlooked
International players = endorsement contracts mainly in their home countries
International fans: Like Lakers + Bulls. Don't care for anyone else teamwise.
-> International players: dont mind playing in Utah because unless they play for Lakers/Bulls it doesn't matter.
American players like the national markets -> They will prefer a medium market over a small market.
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International players more likely inclined to stay for more than their first 2 contracts.
Different sidenote:
I like how Snyder's team looks like the next Hawks-style team with size.
5 second bananas already on the team. Everyone has big nights. They share the ball.
Burke will either accept his 2nd banana role or get shipped just like the generational talent Enes Kancer, who couldn't prove he was worthy of a 1st option and didn't meet leadership, energy spark and defensive thresholds required to become a 1st banana.
I know he's out of our range, but a shout out to Karl Anthony-Towns.
Kentucky was down 7 last night with 4:00 to go and Kat took over the game on both sides. Complete and utter domination. We went from 7 down to an 8 point victory and he was unstoppable with sky hooks with both hands, elite passing, ft's, and owned the paint on the defensive end. Beast.
Kentucky was down 7 last night with 4:00 to go and Kat took over the game on both sides. Complete and utter domination. We went from 7 down to an 8 point victory and he was unstoppable with sky hooks with both hands, elite passing, ft's, and owned the paint on the defensive end. Beast.
Carbon13
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The thing that both worries and intrigues me about Oubre is his limitations seem to be due to Bill Self keeping a short leash on him. On the one hand, is Oubre a head case? On the other, this is Bill Self, the guy who produced Thomas Robinson and nearly ruined Wiggins' draft stock.
I like Oubre's potential but it has been noted (in HS, that is) that he has to be pushed to get better rather than an internal burning desire. Also a tad tough to coach at times. He is at the bottom of my list of those in range that I am interested in.
As long as we can cleveland our way into the Lottery he's not out of range!
#dontfrownuntilhesoutoftown
I think it's not Self who made Wiggins look bad. Self's system didn't help for sure. But with their personnel it was hard to get open lanes that would have allowed Wiggins to play to his strengths with his limited ball handling ability.
It was more like Wiggins took a sabbatical preemptively knowing he'd go top3 anyways as long as he'd show sparks. Tanking his draftstock also meant less chance to land in a super tankapalooza situation.
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It's college basketball that didn't let Wiggins look as good. Stop blaming Self, his job isn't to send players to the NBA, it's to win college games.
Park Bites
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I do not like oubre's mental state. we don't need another cj who explodes one game then disappears for the next 5.
Beer
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I was a doubter when I watched his HS videos. He beefed up and is playing awesome though. Still would like him to improve his athleticism but his skill level is off the charts.
His athleticism isn't elite for sure, but it is far from inadequate..
Karl Anthony Clowns
