Wells Report concluded that the Patriots violated rules and Tom Brady was aware

[NAOS]

I'm the only one who said a good thing about the other team or players. So yup. Haters gonna hate.

you're right. He should have said:

Naivers gon naive.

That applies quite well to you in this case.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

i would rather suck brady's **** than accept the truth!

Fixed

 

[Stoked]

The Broncos have cheated too. It's well documented. How broken is your heart at the sound of this news??

It's not. If they get caught breaking the rules they should be penalyzed. Just like the Pats were in this case.

Nice try though, kinda.

 

[Stoked]

you're right. He should have said:

Naivers gon naive.

That applies quite well to you in this case.

Are you really that clueless? Tell me you're not and that you just really are not paying attention.

 

[NAOS]

Are you really that clueless? Tell me you're not and that you just really are not paying attention.

you are naive in this case.

Should the Patriots be punished? Yes
Are other teams doing exactly what the Patriots are doing but aren't getting exposed? Abso****inglutely.

I'm going to repost this here:

Not giving you the response you wanted does not equate dodging the issue.

My stance is the same it has always been. One you conveniently ignore.

If any team, including the Broncos, get caught cheating they should be punished.

But then you knew that, as I had said it at least twice, and are simply playing games.

None of what you've said justly acknowledges the FACT that cheating is endemic to the NFL. At bottom, the NFL doesn't even really have any interest in a cheating-free league; rather, they have an interest in the IMAGE of a cheating-free league. Do the necessary research and you won't be able to avoid agreeing with this.

When I taught at the university my most popular class was on drugs. My students had to complete a quarter-length research project, and many chose topics on performance-enhancing drugs. Many of those students chose to focus on the NFL. Over time, I read most of the papers they cited. The case is closed: the NFL is jammed full of drugs. And there are negotiations between the league and the NFLPA that deal directly with how to keep them out of sight but still pumping through veins.

Anywhoo, this is just one example. If your heart wants a game with integrity, then you need to turn off football. Over the years, the Patriots have been subject to more scrutiny than anybody... probably more than half the league combined. Spygate was something everybody was doing (like drugs), and a former assistant coach ratted them out (where is he now by the way?? He stepped on the snake... got spit out into ESPN... and where is he now? He can't get a job in the league anymore precisely because the other cheaters know they can't trust him). Deflategate is another sideshow... just ask Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Fabtrey]

It's not. If they get caught breaking the rules they should be penalyzed. Just like the Pats were in this case.

Nice try though, kinda.

eh, broncos got caught cheating the salary cap. $950k fine. factor in the inflation and it's even bigger fine than the what pats had to pay.
https://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1883127

but of course, nobody made a big deal out of it because the broncos ain't hated like the pats. where was salarycapgate for broncos? most people don't even know or remember. you didn't even know. lol imagine pats cheating the salary cap to retain all the key players and get caught. yikes, all hell will break loose. keeping revis, wilfork, and other players through cheating the salary cap? are you kidding me? anderson cooper will smirk and talk about it. and it will be a routine late night jokes.

also broncos had more PED issues(10 plus suspension in the past 10 years) than seahawks, but nobody gives a rats *** about it because broncos are broncos, not pats.

we all know von miller is a known cheater
https://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/...nver-broncos-urine-collector-tried-cheat-test

but nobody really cares because he is von miller, not tom brady. imagine brady was doing PEDs. i don't even want to think about it because it would be 10 times worse than deflategate.

just admit it. only pats make the news. crowd noise pumping in atlanta is a footnote. rodgers virtually admitting that he cheats by overpumping the ball is an afterthought.

don't be silly. only the most hated team in america get penalized and become a national story.

nice try though, kinda.

 

[fishonjazz]

MINNEAPOLIS -- The Minnesota Vikings played their coldest home game in 38 years on Sunday, when they beat the Carolina Panthers in 12-degree temperatures at TCF Bank Stadium.

As both teams dealt with the freezing temperatures, Fox cameras showed sideline attendants using heaters to warm up game balls, which is against league rules.



Nobody cared or got punished

 

[gregbroncs]

eh, broncos got caught cheating the salary cap. $950k fine. factor in the inflation and it's even bigger fine than the what pats had to pay.
https://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1883127

but of course, nobody made a big deal out of it because the broncos ain't hated like the pats. where was salarycapgate for broncos? most people don't even know or remember. you didn't even know. lol imagine pats cheating the salary cap to retain all the key players and get caught. yikes, all hell will break loose. keeping revis, wilfork, and other players through cheating the salary cap? are you kidding me? anderson cooper will smirk and talk about it. and it will be a routine late night jokes.

also broncos had more PED issues(10 plus suspension in the past 10 years) than seahawks, but nobody gives a rats *** about it because broncos are broncos, not pats.

we all know von miller is a known cheater
https://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/...nver-broncos-urine-collector-tried-cheat-test

but nobody really cares because he is von miller, not tom brady. imagine brady was doing PEDs. i don't even want to think about it because it would be 10 times worse than deflategate.

just admit it. only pats make the news. crowd noise pumping in atlanta is a footnote. rodgers virtually admitting that he cheats by overpumping the ball is an afterthought.

don't be silly. only the most hated team in america get penalized and become a national story.

nice try though, kinda.

All these stories you come up with and the woes to the patriots because they are hated. Is it possible it's a bigger deal because they were caught twice cheating in the playoffs? And that this story is huge partially because the Patriots themselves and their fans won't accept it and move on.
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That salary cap story the broncos got punished. They also admitted what they did. They broke a technicality in the rule and did not cover it up. The fans did not whine for weeks about the trivial nature of it and complain repeatedly about it. The fans and franchise of the Broncos accepted it and moved on.
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Von Miller cheated. He got caught and punished. His suspension by the way was longer than pretty boy Brady's was.
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I hate the Patriots. But I hate 3 or 4 teams more than them. I just find their fans and their attitude about we are the Patriots and everybody picks on us to be silly. They are not being picked on because they are the Patriots or hated. They are being punished for their arrogance and cover up and the repeated cheating.

 

[fishonjazz]

What was the score in the game where the patriots got caught? Wasn't it like 45-7 or something?
Didn't the patriots have like 200+ yards rushing?

I could be wrong but I think it was something like that.

 

[gregbroncs]

What was the score in the game where the patriots got caught? Wasn't it like 45-7 or something?
Didn't the patriots have like 200+ yards rushing?

I could be wrong but I think it was something like that.

Nobody is arguing it effected the outcome of that game. But they were cheating and they were doing it before that game. It was an issue in that game because they were being accused of doing it prior to the game.

 

[NAOS]

Nobody is arguing it effected the outcome of that game. But they were cheating and they were doing it before that game. It was an issue in that game because they were being accused of doing it prior to the game.

really? You sound so confident. Can I have a link?

 

[NAOS]

All these stories you come up with and the woes to the patriots because they are hated. Is it possible it's a bigger deal because they were caught twice cheating in the playoffs? And that this story is huge partially because the Patriots themselves and their fans won't accept it and move on.
.
That salary cap story the broncos got punished. They also admitted what they did. They broke a technicality in the rule and did not cover it up. The fans did not whine for weeks about the trivial nature of it and complain repeatedly about it. The fans and franchise of the Broncos accepted it and moved on.
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Von Miller cheated. He got caught and punished. His suspension by the way was longer than pretty boy Brady's was.
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I hate the Patriots. But I hate 3 or 4 teams more than them. I just find their fans and their attitude about we are the Patriots and everybody picks on us to be silly. They are not being picked on because they are the Patriots or hated. They are being punished for their arrogance and cover up and the repeated cheating.

Listening to you talk about "Patriots fans" as one homogeneous group is giving me the LOLs. Anyone with firsthand experience of Boston-area sports fans will tell you that there are a lot of differences. Amongst them is a batch of rabid homers, the likes of which I've never seen equaled. Amongst them are also some of the smartest sports fans I've ever met. So, yeah, ^this^ post is full ignorance. You can't group them together like that.

As a Pats fan I'm simply tired of the way that cheating in the NFL is framed. Everybody wants to make the cheater a total abomination rather than looking honestly at the integrity of NFL as a whole. The Patriots scandals are often served up in such a sensational way that it's like leading a witness to a conclusion that the whole dynasty is tainted... standing out aside from the rest of a mostly pure league. It's *********. Your version of this was in repeating how exceptionally difficult the patriots organization and fans are -- versus the class and sophistication of the Broncos, etc.

And, the Broncos organization + their fans didn't handle things any more honorably or gracefully. Some of them did.... because they, too, can't be generalized so easily. Others were just has homeristic and full of denial as some of the patriots fans.

Anyway, brough, keep spinning dem yarns.