I know there are a lot of LDS people here

[GVC]

I could have been more specific. Muslims visiting/studying here when they would have to return to their native country/customs and possibly be in physical harm.

Is that an actual policy? Does it only apply to those living in certain countries?

Doesn't meet your criteria, but I taught two Muslim people who were baptized in Indonesia.

 

[bigb]

Not at all duder. I think those things are troubling, but being a polygamist or a Muslim are a choice. Homosexuality is not a choice. So I guess I see the LDS Church's stance towards LGBTQ folks pretty awful, since they really can't do anything about the way they feel. If I'm Muslim and I want to get baptized, pretty good chance I don't want to be a Muslim anymore and I can choose to not be Muslim anymore if I want. Same with polygamy. A gay person cannot not be gay. Does that make sense?

Absolutely makes sense. But the same policy is still in place for them. As for polygamist kids, they don't exactly have a choice of being there either.
More than anything I was wondering what your stance on that was.

 

[bigb]

Is that an actual policy? Does it only apply to those living in certain countries?

Doesn't meet your criteria, but I taught two Muslim people who were baptized in Indonesia.

Take this with a grain of salt as I'm not 100% sure of it, but missionaries are not supposed to teach and baptize Muslims in the scenario I gave. It may be based on where they are from, and I'm guessing that if they are in their native or permanent country it doesn't apply.

 

[GVC]

Take this with a grain of salt as I'm not 100% sure of it, but missionaries are not supposed to teach and baptize Muslims in the scenario I gave. It may be based on where they are from, and I'm guessing that if they are in their native or permanent country it doesn't apply.

I ask because I encountered people after my mission who seemed to think missionaries weren't allowed to teach or baptize Muslims AT ALL, which I knew wasn't true. This could possibly be a similar Mormon rumor. I'd be surprised, for example, if this policy applied to someone from a Western country, like Canada or Australia.

 

[bigb]

I ask because I encountered people after my mission who seemed to think missionaries weren't allowed to teach or baptize Muslims AT ALL, which I knew wasn't true. This could possibly be a similar Mormon rumor. I'd be surprised, for example, if this policy applied to someone from a Western country, like Canada or Australia.

Yeah I would guess the same thing about the western countries. Like I said, I think it's more geared toward those studying in said western countries and having to return home.

 

[colton]

Yes. Google 'Mormon baptismal covenant' for more info. I don't know that many eight-year-olds, but I find it hard to believe that many are old enough to understand or be prepared to commit to stand as a witness of God. They might as well be baptized as babies.

I can't speak for all eight year olds, but with my two daughters, we made sure that they both understood the gospel and the church at a reasonable level, and that they understood what they were committing to, again to a reasonable level. And they certainly were able to tell right from wrong in terms of general behavior. It was very different from baptizing babies.

 

[b_line]

I ask because I encountered people after my mission who seemed to think missionaries weren't allowed to teach or baptize Muslims AT ALL, which I knew wasn't true. This could possibly be a similar Mormon rumor. I'd be surprised, for example, if this policy applied to someone from a Western country, like Canada or Australia.

When I was on my mission in Taiwan, we had to ask permission from the mission president to teach Indonesian muslims. Middle East muslims were pretty much off limits. I don't know if that was church wide though.

There were rumors that some Christian missionaries had been murdered by family members of Muslims they had converted.

 

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heh, next time a missionary approaches me (they often do) can't wait to drop the M-bomb on them 5 minutes in, and watch their knees quake.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Not at all duder. I think those things are troubling, but being a polygamist or a Muslim are a choice. Homosexuality is not a choice. So I guess I see the LDS Church's stance towards LGBTQ folks pretty awful, since they really can't do anything about the way they feel. If I'm Muslim and I want to get baptized, pretty good chance I don't want to be a Muslim anymore and I can choose to not be Muslim anymore if I want. Same with polygamy. A gay person cannot not be gay. Does that make sense?

according to you and some people.

according to some churches sinning is a CHOICE. and according to some religion being of that rleigion is not a choice.
example Muslim "convert or die"
but hey lets force your point of view on the church.


and dont you think it is hyporcitical.
you cannot choose with what sex you fall in love with according to you. but you can choose not to fall in love with multiple women?

 

[Stoked]

heh, next time a missionary approaches me (they often do) can't wait to drop the M-bomb on them 5 minutes in, and watch their knees quake.

eh that is nothing. When I was down in Honduras the most aggressive religions by far were 7th Day Adventist and Jehovah's Witnesses. They see you coming and literally trip over themselves to get to you and engage in some bible bashing. Quite entertaining.

Ahhh, good times.

 

[b_line]

heh, next time a missionary approaches me (they often do) can't wait to drop the M-bomb on them 5 minutes in, and watch their knees quake.

Candan missionaries are told to baptize all the muslims they can. They actually don't even have to have your permission to baptize you. They will also go to your home and baptize your mom and all your family too. Then they will find your future wife and baptize her. If they're not 100% sure who your future wife is (they can predict with 98% accuracy) they will baptize all the girls in the whole city, and some sheep too, just to be safe.












Better just tell them you have two dads who are making 8th in the couch vigorously as you speak.

 

[b_line]

Damn it dal. Just remembered you are in Japan. Now my joke doesn't even make sense. Have fun scaring the missionaries over there. Tell them you are checking on oil interests near Mt fuji. Or that you came to Japan to go to flight school for the sole purpose of flying an airbus 330 recreationally.