Do we have another trade in us by 3pm ET ?
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I would have done the Millsap deal even though I am a huge Millsap fan. I guess Jazz fans forgot how Lopez dominated the last time we played. He isn't as bad offensively as people think. Lopez and AJ starting with Favors coming off the bench for a few years. Then if Favors becomes as good as people think he will you trade AJ for some additonal help.
Do you think we were going to get an all star or something? We were either going to get a bad contract back or actually have to trade a 1st round pick or something (for instance to Sacramento who is well below the cap) to get somebody to take his salary.
DeliveryBoy
Active Member
I would have liked to see a play made for Wallace, Green, or Mayo, but it's not a big deal that we missed out on those guys. I am glad we didn't do the ROBIN Lopez for Millsap deal. We have absolutely no idea how good Favors will be for the Jazz, so standing pat was probably the better move.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Exactly.
Getting $3M from NJ likely made them rethink any deals for AK. I didn't run a trade checker, but IINM, Jazz didn't take back the equivalent in salaries. So they save the difference for 1/2 the season, pay less luxury tax and have the $3M to put towards it.
Not taking on any long-term deals means they'll be well under this season's luxury tax line heading into next summer. Whatever happens with the CBA, the Jazz may be well-positioned to re-sign AK if they choose, and still add a decent veteran starter or 6th man, along with having their lottery picks. In fact, I think KOC will try to dangle the later pick or the future one from GS in a package to acquire a veteran.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
Stupid is kidding yourself into thinking your players will stay and being so naive that you let the trade deadline come and go without getting anything for them. We did the right thing. At the end of the day, we did the right thing and got more for DWill than we'd ever get. I truly believe that.
Salary is a whole 'nother issue too long to go into right now. What I will say though is that we have AK coming off the books (and Miles too if we want) this summer, Memo coming off the books next year (maybe he'll be an asset to someone next year or the next year the league plays), and then Bell, AJ, Millsap and Harris the year after that. Does that seem an eternity away? Sure. But it's only 28 months or so. By that time, Favors will still just be 21, we'll have drafted a couple of young gems (cross your fingers anyway) who likewise will be very young, hopefully gotten another draft pick or three by trading off some of the expirings year to year (and hopefully those too will have yielded good prospects), Hayward will have developed and will still be just 23, we'll have a ton of cap room to re-sign the aforementioned players or free agents,and so on and so on,
In other words, in just over two years time, we could have a ton, A TON, of legitimate young talent on this team along with a ton of cap room and be headed in the exact right direction that we need to be headed. That reminds me of what OKC has been doing and I like how that sounds. That requires Favors or other picks develop similarly to Durant and Westbrook to some degree of course. That also requires us to try to continue to trade marginal guys (Miles, Bell, Okur, Jefferson, maybe even Millsap) next year to stockpile picks, gain cap room, and pick up young talent. But I think Favors can be a cornerstone and think we can do all that and am excited about it.
No sense in continuing to fret about it bro. Look at the bright side (and there's a very bright one considering Deron was likely walking) and get excited.
Yes? What's wrong with this trade?
https://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4lxh23l
you blew it, KOC!
What's done is done, that's fine. I can get excited about rebuilding, I would just like the Jazz to do it the right way instead of hanging onto players that can't or shouldn't be in their longterm plans. Dumping Harris and Jefferson would get them even more cap space and even more picks for this project and that's what I'm interested in. And if the Jazz are going to operate under an assumption for one decision (we'll probably lose next year to negotiate/trade/whatever), I would hope they would operate under that same assumption for others.
We ultimately agree, I just think Harris and Jefferson are a big waste of time and money, especially since neither are leaders, while one has been a loser his whole career and one has spent more time in the last two years sulking and pouting than Deron has.
I stand corrected sir!
Darkwing Duck
Well-Known Member
That may happen in the off season. O'Connor has stated that he wants to remain competitive this year. I think the Jazz could still make the playoffs. This wouldn't be a bad thing because the Jazz are losing a draft to Minnesota in the near future (unless there are years of ineptitude, which we don't want) and this year has the highest protection, meaning it's a good idea to just get it over with. Be just good enough this year, and start the rebuilding process fully.
In addition, Jefferson is still young enough where he can be part of a quick rebuild, which the Jazz successfully did five years ago. No problems for me keeping him. His contract isn't great for that, but it isn't horrid either. The new CBA may be a factor in rebuilding as well. It's becoming more certain that the new deal will favor smaller franchises. That may influence what the Jazz do.
