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I didn't think creed was that good
 
ONE LOVE said:
Really? How so? Too much nudity?
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lol. No. I don't care about sex and nudity. I didn't like it because I find the story ridiculous. AI with human level of general intelligence would require decades of work by thousands of scientists and engineers, and it would be the most significant advance in human history. [Spoiler Alert] But in this movie, one guy does it all on his own, because he's the kind of genius that exists in every sci-fi movie and nowhere else. Then decides that the best use for it, for the time being, is to make sexbots for his fortress of solitude. And whenever they start philosophizing about intelligence and "what it means to be human", it sounds like someone stumbled upon a pamphlet from a transhumanist convention. So a ton of silly tropes + a ridiculous story + vapid philosophy = crap movie.
 
Siro said:
lol. No. I don't care about sex and nudity. I didn't like it because I find the story ridiculous. AI with human level of general intelligence would require decades of work by thousands of scientists and engineers, and it would be the most significant advance in human history. [Spoiler Alert] But in this movie, one guy does it all on his own, because he's the kind of genius that exists in every sci-fi movie and nowhere else. Then decides that the best use for it, for the time being, is to make sexbots for his fortress of solitude. And whenever they start philosophizing about intelligence and "what it means to be human", it sounds like someone stumbled upon a pamphlet from a transhumanist convention. So a ton of silly tropes + a ridiculous story + vapid philosophy = crap movie.
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I enjoyed it. I think you're making SKA's argument about "how" and "why" sci-fi. You want a "how" but this movie isn't about that.
 
Gameface said:
I enjoyed it. I think you're making SKA's argument about "how" and "why" sci-fi. You want a "how" but this movie isn't about that.
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The "why" in the movie is worse than its "how". I have a generally low opinion of sci-fi movies and TV shows, probably because I've been spoiled by the high level that can be found in literature. What it boils down to is this: a man creates the most significant tech advance in human history, and what does he do with it? Personal sex slaves. Why? Because of some flimsy excuse of him wanting to make sure it's "just right" before releasing it. The result is your typical crappy sci-fi thriller than doesn't offer much to contemplate. In a way, I understand this. The mainstream just isn't ready for real philosophy in their science fiction. There are science fiction movies that do a good job tackling social issues (like District 9). But I can't think of a single movie that does the philosophy of science any justice.

Do you read science fiction? If so, you should look into the work of Greg Egan. The existential and ontological questions he raises are soul-shattering. Easily my most beloved author.

From Wikipedia:

He specialises in hard science fiction stories with mathematical and quantum ontology themes, including the nature of consciousness. Other themes include genetics, simulated reality, posthumanism, mind uploading, sexuality, artificial intelligence, and the concept of rational naturalism being superior to religion. He is known for his tendency to deal with complex technical material, like inventive new physics and epistemology, in an unapologetically thorough manner.
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Siro said:
The "why" in the movie is worse than its "how". I have a generally low opinion of sci-fi movies and TV shows, probably because I've been spoiled by the high level that can be found in literature. What it boils down to is this: a man creates the most significant tech advance in human history, and what does he do with it? Personal sex slaves. Why? Because of some flimsy excuse of him wanting to make sure it's "just right" before releasing it. The result is your typical crappy sci-fi thriller than doesn't offer much to contemplate. In a way, I understand this. The mainstream just isn't ready for real philosophy in their science fiction. There are science fiction movies that do a good job tackling social issues (like District 9). But I can't think of a single movie that does the philosophy of science any justice.

Do you read science fiction? If so, you should look into the work of Greg Egan. The existential and ontological questions he raises are soul-shattering. Easily my most beloved author.

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Sounds awesome. I'll give some of his work a go.
 
Siro said:
lol. No. I don't care about sex and nudity. I didn't like it because I find the story ridiculous. AI with human level of general intelligence would require decades of work by thousands of scientists and engineers, and it would be the most significant advance in human history. [Spoiler Alert] But in this movie, one guy does it all on his own, because he's the kind of genius that exists in every sci-fi movie and nowhere else. Then decides that the best use for it, for the time being, is to make sexbots for his fortress of solitude. And whenever they start philosophizing about intelligence and "what it means to be human", it sounds like someone stumbled upon a pamphlet from a transhumanist convention. So a ton of silly tropes + a ridiculous story + vapid philosophy = crap movie.
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I actually liked the movie allot but you make really good points and explained well why you didn't like it.
 
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