I don't think the case or verdict is a gender issue and I don't think anyone has said it is.
The thread changed along the course of discussion as threads sometimes do.
The case and Erin Andrews are no longer being discussed.
Not once have I said that a woman shouldn't use her sexuality to impress a man. That's completely her decision.
I am criticizing the precedent that men set that unfairly pushes women to use sexuality to impress all peers in society, including men.
To a simpleton like you, the two above points are the same. I'll keep playing chess, you can stick to checkers.
I didn't deny the existence of institutional sexism.
I claimed that your poor application of feminism perpetuates it.
I had no issue with anything you said until you took that extra step too far. The one where you blamed female sexuality.
dalol
Anyway I'm glad your backing up now. That wasn't so hard was it?
It becomes a gender issue as soon as people start saying things that are ignorant of the gender politics at play, not when they are called out for being functional misogynists.
It could help a mans career too imo.It veered in that direction as soon as people started going down the "it probably helped her career so she's not really entitled to all that money" path. That happened pretty early.
It becomes a gender issue as soon as people start saying things that are ignorant of the gender politics at play, not when they are called out for being functional misogynists.
You delegitimize it when you characterize critiques of institutional sexism as "liberal misogyny". It's fooling no one.
Yes, with some Goebblsian, Baghdad Bob level analysis
Hahahahahahah
Her career has probably actually been helped by this.
Plus the 55 million is probably more than she was ever going to make in her career
This was, in large part, the defense used by Marriott. Let's just say that your female jurors will decide you owe more money for trying that one.
Ahh. So you're to blame. Glad we cleared that one up.It veered in that direction as soon as people started going down the "it probably helped her career so she's not really entitled to all that money" path. That happened pretty early.
It becomes a gender issue as soon as people start saying things that are ignorant of the gender politics at play, not when they are called out for being functional misogynists.
To a simpleton like you, the two above points are the same. I'll keep playing chess, you can stick to checkers.
Nope I simply delegitimize the misogynistic view that a woman's sexual identity is the issue. It's not.
The issue is what the dude that took the damn video thinks of women not what Andrews thinks of herself. She and her attitudes are not on trial.(they shouldn't be)
I hope you find someone who loves the taste of your bratwurst half as much as you do.
It's rather bizarre that you consistently try to act like you know who I am. Thanks for the love n care tho.
It's rather bizarre that you consistently try to act like you know who I am. Thanks for the love n care tho.
And women also deserve the right to not give a **** about whether some ******* white dude thinks it's important for them to fall within his narrow range of what it means to be beautiful.
I think that other women are allot of the reason that women feel the need and feel pressured to look beautiful.
I can only speak for myself but me and allot of men I know hate fake eyelashes, hate pumped full of collagen lips, hate drawn on eyebrows, wish women wore less makeup, cared less about their hair (I love it when my wife just throws her hair into a ponytail), had less shoes/purses/clothes in general.
I feel like allot of women try to look beautiful to impress their girlfriend's and other women every bit as much as to impress men.
I see all the womens magazines at the grocery store and they all have topics about how to be more attractive.
Yet men get all the blame in society for trying to pressure, force, and dictate that women be beautiful apparently.