Brexit

[green]

Trumpism wins in the UK!

Polls show that the older and whiter voters wanted to leave. While those younger and more diverse wanted to stay.

This is going to be disastrous economically for the British. Especially for the next few years. But they made this bed.

Has that generation done anything worthwhile? They were given more wealth and more opportunity than any other generation ever in the history of mankind. And what do they have to show for it?

Credit Card debt.
Housing debt.
Facebook and all the pictures of themselves bragging about their kids on the vacations and houses that they will never own/pay off.
They screwed up medicine.
They have helped the greatest income inequality since 1928.

They may be the absolute worst generation to have ever walked the earth. All you 50-80 year olds? Yikes. What a legacy. You came into a world that was putting things together and you may have completely destroyed it in your wake of selfishness.

 

[green]

Gawd. Jimmy eat jazz and babe talking to each other reminds me of Family Guy and Buzz Killington. Get a room you two sexual intellectuals. Jeez.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

For what it's worth, this article pretty well sums up many of my feelings regarding the Brexit. David Cameron made a huge miscalculation, and it has cost him his job, earned him history's ridicule, and put his nation's economy in peril. This was as big of a policy blunder as the Iraq war was for the US. (And arguably, the result of the referendum was the result of the ripple effects of Bush's destabilization of the Middle East, which contributed to the current refugee crisis, which contributed to the rise of nativist sentiment in the UK. It's the gift that keeps on giving.)

https://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybo...d_his_place_as_one_of_the_worst_pms_ever.html

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I've always found it hilarious how so many Americans talk about EU as some unnatural massive creation, but those same Americans do not wish for their unnatural massive creation to be broken up. And the government in Washington has way more powers than the one in Brussels. And I might argue that someone from Lithuania and someone from the UK have as much, if not more in common than someone from New York and someone from rural Alabama.

That's a real knee slapper, and an excellent point other than the fact that you couldn't find a single post on this site to back up your contention there are people who are simultaneously making those two arguments (unless the archives somehow go back to civil war times), and the fact that the history of the two governmental institutions you are trying to compare is not parallel at all. Other than that, though, well done.

 

[Nate505]

And I might argue that someone from Lithuania and someone from the UK have as much, if not more in common than someone from New York and someone from rural Alabama.

Make that argument. I don't believe it in the slightest, but I'd like to hear it.

 

[♪alt13]

- talk of 'socialist governments' monolithically is language for the childish, and for simpletons. You're neither, so you can do better. Your propaganda may work on the uneducated, but fortunately fewer and fewer of us belong in that group as the years climb
- Putin is the biggest winner today. UK role in world diminishes, US is weaker because their closest ally is weaker, EU is weaker, Europe more divided. To mr Rah-Rah America, isn't this worrying?

I'm with you that it is sad that the brexit campaign seemed to be driven by bigotry but I still think it's for the best.

The things that superpowers do.

The EU was and will continue to trend toward centralization. I don't think that democracy works at the scale of half a billion people. I don't think that any government works particularly well at that scale save for militarization. In my view the EU poses a significant threat to its own people as well as to the world. The US has the luxury of acting with impunity. The US doesn't spy on its own people and stay constantly in a state of war either because it's in the charter(constitution) or because its people want it. They do it because they can.

 

[♪alt13]

The Koch bros have no problem with the robber baron days.

The robber barons used the government to create and enforce monopolies. The government murdered their striking workers. The robber barons could not have possibly hoped to stake claims such as they had or to keep their workers down in the manner they did without the government.

 

[♪alt13]

The Koch bros have no problem with the robber baron days.

The robber barons used the government to create and enforce monopolies. The government murdered their striking workers. The robber barons could not have possibly hoped to stake claims such as they had or to keep their workers down in the manner they did without the government.

 

[fishonjazz]

I have no idea what the hell brexit is but I do know that when I re-financed my house today (babies aint cheap and my wife ain't working) I was expecting an interest rate of 3.6 and instead got a rate of 3.25 and I asked why it was so low and the loan officer said it was because of something happening in europe.

I assume brexit is the reason for the low rate?

 

[♪alt13]

I have no idea what the hell brexit is but I do know that when I re-financed my house today (babies aint cheap and my wife ain't working) I was expecting an interest rate of 3.6 and instead got a rate of 3.25 and I asked why it was so low and the loan officer said it was because of something happening in europe.

I assume brexit is the reason for the low rate?

Britain voted to exit the EU

 

[fishonjazz]

Britain voted to exit the EU

Is that like the United nations or something?
Who is in the EU? Are we in it or something equivalent?

 

[RJF]

I'm with you that it is sad that the brexit campaign seemed to be driven by bigotry but I still think it's for the best.

The things that superpowers do.

The EU was and will continue to trend toward centralization. I don't think that democracy works at the scale of half a billion people. I don't think that any government works particularly well at that scale save for militarization. In my view the EU poses a significant threat to its own people as well as to the world. The US has the luxury of acting with impunity. The US doesn't spy on its own people and stay constantly in a state of war either because it's in the charter(constitution) or because its people want it. They do it because they can.

Edward Snowden has something to say about that. Though I agree with the rest of your post.