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Baton Rouge Police Killing a 37-year-old black man at point blank range

Gameface said:
I don't want the police summarily executing people in the streets. I want due process of law.
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In Hack's world any crime deserves death if the perpetrated chooses so. Not kidding either, pretty sure he has advocated for that.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
You're welcome for the help. I know who he is too.
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JazzGal said:
I have a tough time with white people telling minorities how they should process their experiences, how they should feel, what they should think. I've done it myself in the past, and I'm ashamed when I've heard experiences that friends have had just because of skin color. It's taken time to learn that the world is completely different for other people than it is for me.

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[MENTION=62]JazzGal[/MENTION] extremely underrated post.

I talked this subject with my brother yesterday. Guy has a mind like [MENTION=848]dalamon[/MENTION] [MENTION=40]Siro[/MENTION] [MENTION=249]NAOS[/MENTION] [MENTION=14]colton[/MENTION] [MENTION=430]Dr. Jones[/MENTION] [MENTION=74]One Brow[/MENTION]. A true genius. When we watch jeopardy he has all the answers.

He tells me, you know Boris, when I worked with that charity group in Kenya an several other impoverish African nations you know what we did? We shut the hell up an asked them what THEY thought would help.

They understand there problems, they are most likely to understand the solutions to them. We need to shut up an LISTEN.
 
King Cy said:
In Hack's world any crime deserves death if the perpetrated chooses so. Not kidding either, pretty sure he has advocated for that.
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Lol

Really? Any crime? I said that?

And actually I have a different opinion for different people. For instance, if you or gameface were robbed at gunpoint I wouldnt care. I would laugh. I kid, I kid, but seriously, if you do get robbed. Dont cry about it. Just say to yourself, you had that coming, or no biggie that guy seemed like a good guy, hope he has fun with my money.
 
King Cy said:
In Hack's world any crime deserves death if the perpetrated chooses so. Not kidding either, pretty sure he has advocated for that.
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I'll stop talking to him then. That's beyond disgusting and horrific imho.
 
Gameface said:
I'll stop talking to him then. That's beyond disgusting and horrific imho.
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What I get from your stance on bothe these circumstance is that police responding to armed citizens acting not responsibly the police should not use discression an caution.
 
I only want to know the truth, whatever that is. It is so easy to find "evidence" that fits your own bias and will give you the outcome you desire.

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fishonjazz said:
You would also have to get the statistics and keep in mind that black people commit a huge amount of the crimes in the country to compared to whites as well. And cops seem to **** with minorities more than white people (at least that is the perception) so it seems that there would be more opportunities for more minorities to get shot by the po po

Lots of other variables involved. I just found the raw data interesting.
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♪alt13 said:
It's not even close. IIRC blacks are about 10 times more likely to commit murder than whites. The reason for it has everything to do with our history and us continuing to send so many young black men to crime school(prison). That said, it is just factually incorrect to state that blacks as a group do not commit significantly more crime.
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Oh my god, where do some of you get your "facts"?
"...black people commit a huge amount of the crimes compared to whites..."
"..blacks are about 10 times more likely to commit murder than whites..."
(yes, in this category, they are arrested a bit more frequently, but it's closer to a 1-1 ratio than anything)

crime_stats_byrace2013.jpg(click on the image for an enlarged view)

Here's a link to a chart from the FBI on arrest statistics by race
(for 2013, most recent available I guess)
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

It shows that of all arrests for all crimes, approx. 69% are white and 28% are black and 3% other
(Hispanic is not listed as a race but as an ethnicity, if you go to the link and scroll to the left, it shows that approximately 16.6% are Hispanic/Latino and 83.4% are non-Hispanic/non-Latino. )
The image above breaks it down by type of crime.

Here's a link to the overview for all the statistical tables (they're also by geographical area, by population density and other categories):
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/persons-arrested/persons-arrested


also note:
The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program counts one arrest for each separate instance in which a person is arrested, cited, or summoned for an offense. The UCR Program collects arrest data on 28 offenses, as described in Offense Definitions. (Please note that, beginning in 2010, the UCR Program no longer collected data on runaways.) Because a person may be arrested multiple times during a year, the UCR arrest figures do not reflect the number of individuals who have been arrested; rather, the arrest data show the number of times that persons are arrested, as reported by law enforcement agencies to the UCR Program.
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Overview

  • Nationwide, law enforcement made an estimated 11,302,102 arrests in 2013. Of these arrests, 480,360 were for violent crimes, and 1,559,284 were for property crimes. (Note: the UCR Program does not collect data on citations for traffic violations.)
  • The highest number of arrests were for drug abuse violations (estimated at 1,501,043 arrests), larceny-theft (estimated at 1,231,580), and driving under the influence (estimated at 1,166,824). (See Table 29.)
  • The estimated arrest rate for the United States in 2013 was 3,690.5 arrests per 100,000 inhabitants. The arrest rate for violent crime (including murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault) was 159.8 per 100,000 inhabitants, and the arrest rate for property crime (burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson) was 513.2 per 100,000 inhabitants. (See Table 30.)
  • Two-year arrest trends show violent crime arrests declined 3.9 percent in 2013 when compared with 2012 arrests, and property crime arrests decreased 2.9 percent when compared with 2012 arrests.
  • Arrests of juveniles for all offenses decreased 15.5 percent in 2013 when compared with the 2012 number; arrests of adults decreased 3.7 percent. (See Table 36.)
  • More than 73 percent (73.5) of the persons arrested in the nation during 2013 were males. They accounted for 79.9 percent of persons arrested for violent crime and 62.2 percent of persons arrested for property crime. (See Table 42.)
  • In 2013, 68.9 percent of all persons arrested were white, 28.3 percent were black, and the remaining 2.9 percent were of other races. (See Table 43.)

Expanded arrest data

Expanded data about arrests include information about the age, gender, and race of the arrestees. These data are available in the following tables:

Age: Tables 32, 34, 36, 38, 39, 40, 41, 44, 46, 47, 50, 52, 53, 56, 58, 59, 62, 64, and 65

Gender: Tables 33, 35, 37, 39, 40, 42, 45, 48, 51, 54, 57, 60, 63, and 66

Race: Tables 43, 49, 55, 61, and 67
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fishonjazz said:
So i tried to upload an picture from the washington post showing the statistics for police shooting so far this year but i am unable to load it.
Anywho... There were 509 police shootings that resulted in civilian deaths from the start of this year up until july.
484 were male. 25 female. 238 were white. 123 were black. 79 hispanic. 46 unknown. 23 other race. 282 of the victims had a gun on them. 88 had knife. 35 were in a vehicle as their "weapon". 22 had a toy weapon. 35 were unarmed. 27 unknown. 20 other. 385 showed no signs or had history of mental illness. 124 of them did.

So the most common person shot by a policeman is a white male with no mental problems carrying a gun.

I found that to be interesting.
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fishonjazz said:
Btw. I didn't really have a point or agenda with that post. (After all there are way more white people in the country than any other race) just found it interesting.
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The US population is about 62% white, 12% black, 18% Hispanic, 6% Asian, 1% Native Amer., 2% 2 or more races

https://kff.org/other/state-indicator/distribution-by-raceethnicity/#table
This Census Bureau LINK explains how race is defined.
 
Boris said:
What I get from your stance on bothe these circumstance is that police responding to armed citizens acting not responsibly the police should not use discression an caution.
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Yeah, you'd be wrong... again.
 
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