Exum

[Et tu Brute]

No they dont LOL. It's much more like the scene In Gladiator where the crowd forces Commodus to give the thumbs up...

He'll hit the market and then they'll have the choice to match or pass... That's how much hand they have.. there's fistfuls of examples every summer of this..

Yeah I get that. But don't you think some of the ups and downs of Exum's season could spook him into looking to secure his medium term future and take the money now?

He could still bust out of the league at this point. (Not that I think he will).

 

[Game6Conley]

Yeah I get that. But don't you think some of the ups and downs of Exum's season could spook him into looking to secure his medium term future and take the money now?

He could still bust out of the league at this point. (Not that I think he will).

Terrible teams are ones usually close to being overthrown, they're also usually the ones with the worst perimeter defense... They're also usually ones who need a new direction and for new players the fans can root for. Exum being 22 and a good defensive player really, really should benefit from all this.. His positional flexibility helps too. He's an easy sell to a new fanbase.

I'm presuming a new regime with eyes on re-branding a paper thin defense of years past will look to pay Exum..

All he needs to do is shoot the 3 well and thats his golden ticket.. Thats enough to incite a bidding war..

There's teams out there that need to spend to meet the salary floor.. Not everyone's loaded with talent and soon to be strapped for $$$ like Utah..

Many of these teams haven't really revealed themselves yet. Who really knows how the bad teams now bounce back in that summer of 2018, going into 2019... There's gonna be some surprising bottom-feeders..

 

[Miggs]

Thats not an open market price... Thats a discount.. Here's the list of Potential guards on the market that summer..

There's going to be at least one team thats decent now but will burn out next season and go for a big rebuild.. The rising cap allows for bolder moves and if a team's been prudent and avoided bloated deals, a calculated overpay on Exum could pay off in spades. He's an easy sell to most fanbases, you can even spin the injury like it's one of the reasons they think he's got lots more upside. He'll still be younger than players drafted in 2018 too(college players only. 2017 is the final year of eligibility for international players from Exums born year '95)..

(The # after the position is current age)

You do realize that teams have spent like crazy the last couple years and will this coming summer and that the cap is barely going up, if at all, in the summer of 2018, right?

The number of teams that will have a lot of space, let alone to throw it around on the likes of an unproven Dante Exum, will be few and far between in my estimation.

 

[Game6Conley]

I'm guessing his endorsers don't want him Utah either.. Hate to say it, wouldn't wish it on him, but the Knicks could really use him. Much more so than Joakim Noah..

 

[Game6Conley]

You do realize that teams have spent like crazy the last couple years and will this coming summer and that the cap is barely going up, if at all, in the summer of 2018, right?

The number of teams that will have a lot of space, let alone to throw it around on the likes of an unproven Dante Exum, will be few and far between in my estimation.

I find this take to be obviously clouded by greed. Lets discuss margins. look at the margins the caps been jumping recently, is that really not enough for your personal preference?!?

The cap is projected to jump 7% next year, it jumped a record 34% last year and 11% in 2015.

This is EXTREMELY beneficial for the Jazz, they are positioned to tactfully exploit this better than most. Having a long list of good RFA's is ideal under all conditions but especially these ones.. I made the thread about the cap jump the other day and people didn't seem to think so.

I honestly don't even understand that line of thinking other than it's just a simple "We want MORE goddamnit"

 

[JazzyFresh]

Confidence... Confidence... Confidence...

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[Game6Conley]

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I'm not even sure its confidence tbh, he gets it, his body language after making a turnover is great, he hustles his *** off with no hesitation..

Not exactly sure what it is. His tools don't exactly make him unpredictable to defense, but I think its more like a muscle memory thing, he needs reps.. That'll be part of the sell if some team is gonna overpay him. 30mpg guaranteed.

Shooting is just one of those things, even world-class blackjack card counters can still lose over long periods of time(years) due to the luck of the draw. Even Steph Curry goes cold sometimes and I'm sure it gets in his head...

There was a recent story with Kyrie going onto the spurs floor after the game to get 3pt shots up, after they got smashed and shot like ****. sounds like an excuse so internet experts don't like to hear it but sometimes u just gotta get the bad ones out of your system. Thats why I say Exum best-case can shoot 40%.. Look at how George Hill is preserving his hot early season %'s.....

The low volume thing is a very explosive element. u really see it watching college ball..

 

[Miggs]

I find this take to be obviously clouded by greed. Lets discuss margins. look at the margins the caps been jumping recently, is that really not enough for your personal preference?!?

The cap is projected to jump 7% next year, it jumped a record 34% last year and 11% in 2015.

This is EXTREMELY beneficial for the Jazz, they are positioned to tactfully exploit this better than most. Having a long list of good RFA's is ideal under all conditions but especially these ones.. I made the thread about the cap jump the other day and people didn't seem to think so.

I honestly don't even understand that line of thinking other than it's just a simple "We want MORE goddamnit"

What in the holy hell are you talking about? The bottom line is the cap is only expected to rise about 1% next summer and by that time, most teams will have (overly) spent their asses off, thus making it impossible or very unlikely they will be able to sign someone (i.e., anyone) to a big contract, let alone an unproven Exum.

 

[Nate505]

In his first year I was wonder where the hell his ability to get to the basket was. This year I'm wondering where the hell is his ability to finish around the basket.

I really believe he'll fix that part of his game next year. If he does, he can be a very good player in this league.

 

[Rubashov]

I'm not even sure its confidence tbh, he gets it, his body language after making a turnover is great, he hustles his *** off with no hesitation..

Not exactly sure what it is. His tools don't exactly make him unpredictable to defense, but I think its more like a muscle memory thing, he needs reps.. That'll be part of the sell if some team is gonna overpay him. 30mpg guaranteed.

Shooting is just one of those things, even world-class blackjack card counters can still lose over long periods of time(years) due to the luck of the draw. Even Steph Curry goes cold sometimes and I'm sure it gets in his head...

There was a recent story with Kyrie going onto the spurs floor after the game to get 3pt shots up, after they got smashed and shot like ****. sounds like an excuse so internet experts don't like to hear it but sometimes u just gotta get the bad ones out of your system. Thats why I say Exum best-case can shoot 40%.. Look at how George Hill is preserving his hot early season %'s.....

The low volume thing is a very explosive element. u really see it watching college ball..

He's only 21, he's still a kid, he should really be looking at entering his rookie year next year by the standards of yesteryear. I think he'll have a great year next year, I also reckon he'll stay at the Jazz, I think that's a smart move for him. If the 76ers could afford him they might make a run at him, Simmons and Brown being there.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Assuming the Jazz pony up and keep Ingles, we can now only keep one of Hood or Exum long term. Who do you extend for 4/80? Exum or Hood????

 

[Rubashov]

Assuming the Jazz pony up and keep Ingles, we can now only keep one of Hood or Exum long term. Who do you extend for 4/80? Exum or Hood????

They'd have to keep Exum, otherwise how can Joe list him as a dependent for tax purposes?