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Paul Millsap is the 8th worst defender in the entire NBA

NUMBERICA said:
Just kidding. He doesn't say that.

You should probably read the first two paragraphs again and take into account that help defense is hardly even mentioned in the article. He mentioned one metric, which while it shows something of value, does not tell the whole story. Millsap is the 8th worst defender in the entire NBA? Come on.
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Well, that's what the stats say. How would you argue otherwise? Also team defense starts with individual defense. If one guy slacks, the other team will go that way and then the entire defense has to adjust to cover for the weak defender. Did the Jazz give up any open 3s this year because the wings were collapsing to cover for the weak interior D? Just wondering.
 
zman1527 said:
Well, that's what the stats say. How would you argue otherwise?
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They have promised to bring some stats that show us how awesome Millsap is on defense. Honestly, I would be happy to see anything like that, because I like Millsap. However, I have a hunch they won't be back with any stats.
 
mfree said:
I can find a stat to prove that my opinions are all facts too.

Millsap is actually quite good defensively, but defense is a team effort, and the stats don't account for that fact.
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I think his defense has slipped year by year. Are you watching the games? He gets torched on a regular basis.
 
FWIW, Okur put up a 16.6 PER-allowed during the 09-10 season. That is not particularly good either, but it is a bit better than Jefferson this year and more than a bit better than Millsap.

Flame away, Okur haters!
 
r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
Fesenko's "net" contribution is atrocious:

https://www.82games.com/1011/1011UTA.HTM
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Yet his defense is stellar, at least according to the stats. And I would say his overall defensive presence is even greater, as his lane clogging ability helps everyone else.

yeah, he is a weak link on offense. Reminds me a bit of a guy whose jersey hangs in the rafters.

Also, the Jazz almost never tried to use him on offense. Generally at most he gets a pass in the high post for passing to someone else. Maybe if they had tried that more he would look a bit better in the stats. he showed some decent moves in the preseason, was give few of those opportunities in the regular season.

Will he ever be a force on offense? No, but he may be adequate, say 8-10 ppg if he got 30-35 minutes.

Finally, a big lane-clogging, man-to-man defending C can be quite an asset, anchoring the whole defensive effort. If he is used. But once again, I think our coaches are way way too concerned with running an efficient Sloan offense.
 
I won't question his heart, but the dude does get torched on a regular basis. He is 4 to 6 inches shorter than most pfs. But even the smaller David West took it to Mislap.

I think the jazz realize his deficencies and will be forced to make some difficult decisions. He won't like coming off the bench, but that is his best role. Will he be a pouting locker room problem, or an awesome 6th man? If he can't accept that 6th man role in Utah--give him a dose of reality like DWill got.....trade him.
 
Interesting how AK and Ronnie Brewer are 5th and 6th in the entire NBA on that list. If the Jazz want to rebuild, they'll have to be terrible for a few years. What better way to not win a championship than with freakishly horrible defense? Keep Sap and the rest out on the court while drafting studs to sit and ripen on the bench.
 
zman1527 said:
Yet his defense is stellar, at least according to the stats. And I would say his overall defensive presence is even greater, as his lane clogging ability helps everyone else.
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jefferson starting along with Favors to help on defense. millsap off the bench along with Fesenko to help on defense. this makes sense to me.
 
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