Why Lindsey should do NOTHING until July 1st

[LoPo]

Dude... Our 2016/17 team was BALLER!! wtf you talking about??

We were riddled with injuries and still have development to come from ALL of our players.

Thats some dumb **** you just spewed dude, seriously.

I will stop "spewing" when crybabies like you will stop blaming injuries for everything. You are a bonafide dumb *** if you think Favors, Hood, Hill and others will just remarkably stay perfectly healthy as they age. And also consider guys like Hayward and Gobert who are rarely hurt but bad things can happen.

You are a bigger dumb *** if you think a fully healthy "Baller" team like ours would win more than a game off the Warriors in a 7 game series.

I dont think you are a dumb ***. I just think you are either naive or buying into the "what might be if..." hype.

Going into the luxury when the team isn't a title contender or future title contender is just plain dumb. The only way we contend with our current roster is if Tony Bradley is Al Horford and Mitchell is phenomenal.

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[416Klawzz]

I will stop "spewing" when crybabies like you will stop blaming injuries for everything. You are a bonafide dumb *** if you think Favors, Hood, Hill and others will just remarkably stay perfectly healthy as they age. And also consider guys like Hayward and Gobert who are rarely hurt but bad things can happen.

You are a bigger dumb *** if you think a fully healthy "Baller" team like ours would win more than a game off the Warriors in a 7 game series.

I dont think you are a dumb ***. I just think you are either naive or buying into the "what might be if..." hype.

Going into the luxury when the team isn't a title contender or future title contender is just plain dumb. The only way we contend with our current roster is if Tony Bradley is Al Horford and Mitchell is phenomenal.

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Let's all play nice in the sandbox

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[fishonjazz]

Does anybody else have a problem with our off-season just being resigning Ingles, Hayward and Hill? Do we really think thats the answer?

So the 2017/18 Jazz will be the 2016/17 Jazz but replacing Mack and Diaw with Mitchell and Bradley.

Then think about the 2018/19 Jazz without 2 of Joe J, Favors, Exum and Hood.

I'm extremely unsatisfied with this off-season if that is the plan. That is why the cap space is so important in my opinion. We have to be bold or plan for the world when GS might have to break up (2019). Treading water will do nothing for us.

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I would love that offseason.
You missed some things though.
Yes we replace mack and diaw with bradley and mitchell which is awesome.

We also would have an all star on our team in hayward who would likely get more respect from the refs plus he may improve a little.

I expect gobert to improve.

We get a near all star caliber PF that we didn't have last year in a healthy Favors. (If he is healthy)

We get a 6th man of the year candidate in a healthy Burks.

We get a near all star caliber pg for about 50 more games than last year if hill is healthy.

Rodney hood should be much better if healthy.

Exum should make a huge jump in production and ability.

Neto should be a bit improved.

Quin with another year of coaching under his belt should show improvement and the team in another year in his system should improve as well.

The team and coaching staff have playoff experience added as well.


That team would have me very excited to see what they could do.

 

[elan_prodigy]

I will stop "spewing" when crybabies like you will stop blaming injuries for everything. You are a bonafide dumb *** if you think Favors, Hood, Hill and others will just remarkably stay perfectly healthy as they age. And also consider guys like Hayward and Gobert who are rarely hurt but bad things can happen.

You are a bigger dumb *** if you think a fully healthy "Baller" team like ours would win more than a game off the Warriors in a 7 game series.

I dont think you are a dumb ***. I just think you are either naive or buying into the "what might be if..." hype.

Going into the luxury when the team isn't a title contender or future title contender is just plain dumb. The only way we contend with our current roster is if Tony Bradley is Al Horford and Mitchell is phenomenal.

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Cry baby??

Are you afraid of the big bad Warriors??? Please...

I'd rather try to beat them than just waive the white flag and wait around until they're done having their fun. We haven't even reached our potential as a side yet so I don't plan on paying too much attention to defeatists like you. Injury history, so what? Same could be said of Steph Curry 3 yrs ago... And I have to disagree, being able to resign our franchise player is kind of a big deal.

 

[Stoked]

Does anybody else have a problem with our off-season just being resigning Ingles, Hayward and Hill? Do we really think thats the answer?

So the 2017/18 Jazz will be the 2016/17 Jazz but replacing Mack and Diaw with Mitchell and Bradley.

Then think about the 2018/19 Jazz without 2 of Joe J, Favors, Exum and Hood.

I'm extremely unsatisfied with this off-season if that is the plan. That is why the cap space is so important in my opinion. We have to be bold or plan for the world when GS might have to break up (2019). Treading water will do nothing for us.

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Yes and no. I would be OK with that as I wouldn't mind giving that roster another shot to show what they can do when healthy.

But there would be some disappointment as the FO would not have taken the step forward I feel they need to take. The step from great team to true contender.

 

[LoPo]

Yes and no. I would be OK with that as I wouldn't mind giving that roster another shot to show what they can do when healthy.

But there would be some disappointment as the FO would not have taken the step forward I feel they need to take. The step from great team to true contender.

Thank you Stoked.

I liked last years team. I really did. We were relevant. I just dont think it was near a contender.

And I like Mitchell and Bradley more than Mack and Diaw. A lot more. Doesnt mean they are going to get minutes. If anything, we have to rely on Favors more because of no Diaw. And by the time Mitchell and Bradley might gain confidence, we waive bye bye to two of Favors, Joe, Hood and Exum because we locked in Hill and Ingles to sizeable contracts.

I'm just unsatisfied. With a key injury to an opponent, anything can happen. I just think this approach to our off-season is very short sighted and the realistic goal is the conference finals.

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[fishonjazz]

Thank you Stoked.

I liked last years team. I really did. We were relevant. I just dont think it was near a contender.

And I like Mitchell and Bradley more than Mack and Diaw. A lot more. Doesnt mean they are going to get minutes. If anything, we have to rely on Favors more because of no Diaw. And by the time Mitchell and Bradley might gain confidence, we waive bye bye to two of Favors, Joe, Hood and Exum because we locked in Hill and Ingles to sizeable contracts.

I'm just unsatisfied. With a key injury to an opponent, anything can happen. I just think this approach to our off-season is very short sighted and the realistic goal is the conference finals.

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I would love to get the conference finals.

 

[addictionary]

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So yeah, if it did for Hayseed what it did for me, he's all but signed, sealed and delivered back to Vivint. So no worries. Plus I took that pic of fish with good ol' Denny. What you don't see is Linds gettin' up 30 seconds later for a new pair of slacks ...

Things got a little messy. But Goddammit if Dennis didn't have the time (or half minute) of his life. I'm not sure how that helps retain Hayward but it certainly can't hurt.

Those girls don't sound very Mormon to me bro.

 

[addictionary]

Does anybody else have a problem with our off-season just being resigning Ingles, Hayward and Hill? Do we really think thats the answer?

So the 2017/18 Jazz will be the 2016/17 Jazz but replacing Mack and Diaw with Mitchell and Bradley.

Then think about the 2018/19 Jazz without 2 of Joe J, Favors, Exum and Hood.

I'm extremely unsatisfied with this off-season if that is the plan. That is why the cap space is so important in my opinion. We have to be bold or plan for the world when GS might have to break up (2019). Treading water will do nothing for us.

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I don't. But it will be nice if Teodosic comes over. Will have a lot of fun during games.

 

[fishonjazz]

Thank you Stoked.

I liked last years team. I really did. We were relevant. I just dont think it was near a contender.

You liked last year's team. If we run it back this year then it should be quite a bit better than last year's team.
What's not to like?

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Thank you Stoked.

I liked last years team. I really did. We were relevant. I just dont think it was near a contender.

And I like Mitchell and Bradley more than Mack and Diaw. A lot more. Doesnt mean they are going to get minutes. If anything, we have to rely on Favors more because of no Diaw. And by the time Mitchell and Bradley might gain confidence, we waive bye bye to two of Favors, Joe, Hood and Exum because we locked in Hill and Ingles to sizeable contracts.

I'm just unsatisfied. With a key injury to an opponent, anything can happen. I just think this approach to our off-season is very short sighted and the realistic goal is the conference finals.

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Jesus Christ. Just because the Warriors happened to fall into the perfect series of events, doesn't mean everybody else should just throw their hands in the air and quit.

Utah was a 51 win team as one of the most injured teams in the league last year. Just with a healthy Hill and Favors, that puts us as a 55-60 win team IMO. So we should have been right there with the spurs fighting for 2nd place in the west. The Warriors are an anomaly that nobody is going to be able to match due to the circumstances that brought that team together. Instead, their financial situation will slowly level them out a bit, and until then, there is nothing wrong with trying to overthrow the spurs for 2nd best in the west. Do that and get into the playoffs, and anything could happen, such as injuries.

So yeah, when you've built a team that's capable of winning 55-60 games, you don't throw in the ****ing towel and say we'll never be good enough. That's loser talk and a defeatist frame of mind. You continue to try and build on what you have, and hope for better health, which should be completely reasonable, considering where we were last year.

 

[Stoked]

Jesus Christ. Just because the Warriors happened to fall into the perfect series of events, doesn't mean everybody else should just throw their hands in the air and quit.

Utah was a 51 win team as one of the most injured teams in the league last year. Just with a healthy Hill and Favors, that puts us as a 55-60 win team IMO. So we should have been right there with the spurs fighting for 2nd place in the west. The Warriors are an anomaly that nobody is going to be able to match due to the circumstances that brought that team together. Instead, their financial situation will slowly level them out a bit, and until then, there is nothing wrong with trying to overthrow the spurs for 2nd best in the west. Do that and get into the playoffs, and anything could happen, such as injuries.

So yeah, when you've built a team that's capable of winning 55-60 games, you don't throw in the ****ing towel and say we'll never be good enough. That's loser talk and a defeatist frame of mind. You continue to try and build on what you have, and hope for better health, which should be completely reasonable, considering where we were last year.

Then it is a good thing he isn't saying that...
[MENTION=840]fishonjazz[/MENTION] yes, the WCFs would be great. But the finals would be even better and that should be the goal.