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Rubio traded to Jazz

I'm a huge George Hill fan, HUGE, but oh how surprisingly I hope he doesn't even win 30 games next season.

We loose some 3 point shooting but gain more assists, a true point guard and for a nice price. Leaves us in a much better place than paying a max and regretting it for the next decade.

I hope this enables us to get a Blake Griffen or Gallinari power forward now.
 
rare144 said:
I'm a huge George Hill fan, HUGE, but oh how surprisingly I hope he doesn't even win 30 games next season.

We loose some 3 point shooting but gain more assists, a true point guard and for a nice price. Leaves us in a much better place than paying a max and regretting it for the next decade.

I hope this enables us to get a Blake Griffen or Gallinari power forward now.
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WTF? Where is the money for Griffen and Gallinari coming from?
 
I don't understand the doubters of this trade...
It's been stated many times that one of Hayward's concerns with the Jazz was getting the point guard situation resolved. Hill just fired his agent, it'll probably be weeks before anything can get resolved with a Hill contract. If the Jazz did not make the move for Rubio, this is how their meeting with Hayward would go:

Jazz: "Hey Gordon, we don't know what the situation is with George Hill right now but you're just going to have to trust us that we will be able to re-sign him. Is that okay with you?"
Hayward: "But what if you can't get a deal done with Hill? What's the backup plan?"
Jazz: "Ummmm, ummmm, Dante Exum?"
Hayward: "OK. Thanks for meeting with me, my agent will get back to you in about 15 minutes with my decision...bye."
 
I was told tonight that a lot of the trade for Rubio is because Hayward was very upset with Hill missing so many games last year and the Jazz wanted to show Hayward that they have a backup plan in case Hill goes down again this next year.

#1 sign Hayward.
#2 sign Hill up to a certain number.

Rubio was 100% to make Hayward happy. Hill is still an option at the right price. Now, Exum, Favors, and Hood could all be traded IF Hayward resigns.
 
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For the people saying the Jazz are cheap...this deal doesn't happen if they don't have cap space. Sure sometimes it ends up being unused and wasted, other times (like this) it lets you execute a coup.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
[MENTION=2959]JazzAvenues[/MENTION] - There is some gold worthy of a JA thread here.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1586720

Anyone not sure about how they feel should do some reading on the Minny board. It will cheer you up.
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POTY right ****ing here. I'm sold. Buh bye Hill.

And fwiw, Rubio is a better defender, better passer, has a better A:T ratio, is a better rebounder, gets far more steals, is a better free throw shooter, gets to the line more, is four years younger than Hill, and costs approximately 5M or so less than what we expected Hill to get.

Does he suck at finishing and three point shooting? Sure. But with great coaching, based on his 89% from the line last year, I definitely think he can improve ala Kidd.
 
green said:
I was told tonight that a lot of the trade for Rubio is because Hayward was very upset with Hill missing so many games last year and the Jazz wanted to show Hayward that they have a backup plan in case Hill goes down again this next year.

#1 sign Hayward.
#2 sign Hill up to a certain number.

Rubio was 100% to make Hayward happy. Hill is still an option at the right price. Now, Exum, Favors, and Hood could all be traded IF Hayward resigns.
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Told by whom?

Also, Rubio misses more games than Hill.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Whatever Hayward wants more if we get to that point.
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I mean, we'd still have Hood and Mitchell and Exum and Hill and even Hayward to play the 2.
And Hayward and Hood and Johnson can all play the 3.

I love Ingles and would miss him but I can't help but wonder if it was a lightning in a bottle contract year for him last season.
 
Great value considering age, contract, potential + lottery protection on OKC pick. Don't like the fit, tho replacing Favors with a stretch 4 would help. As long as this doesn't affect Hayward's decision, which I don't think it will, I don't see how this could be a bad move.
 
How I'd like us to proceed.

Re-sign Hayward.
Re-sign Ingles or Hill.
See if Boris has made any attempt to get into shape. If he has, put a ton more effort into getting him into the best shape of his life over the next four months, lose more weight, and keep him.
Sign Muscala to a partial MLE.
Pray Exum has developed like Lindsey said.
Pray Bolomboy has developed.
Get the 2 seed as a big **** you to all these sellouts.
 
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fishonjazz said:
You think simply adding rubio for, let's say mack, is a not an improvement? Tough crowd.
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It's Rubio for Hill. Mack was gone either way, but with this trade there's no way the Jazz bring back Hill. That would be far too much money locked up in the PG position
 
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