THE TRUTH about Hayworthless and the state of the Jazz after-(whore)ward

[LogGrad98]

Hate to be the one to break it to everyone, but realistically we were a FULL-ON ALL-STAR away from contending WITH Hayworthless on the roster. Best case Gordum was a tier 2 all-star. To really compete we needed a full upgrade at another spot to at least another tier 2 all-star, preferably a tier 1, in ADDITION to retaining Diarrheaward. If we could have retained Doucheward and added, say, CP3, then we would have been instant contenders. However, obviously, the opposite happened.

So losing him, ceteris paribus, set us back realistically a minimum of 3 years, as it will likely take that long even for a top-flight talent to really hit their stride (Mitchell maybe), or it will take that long to acquire and flip assets into another all-star caliber player. And even then, in the new super-team NBA, that gets us BACK to being a 2nd round exit in the playoffs.

Now, we can hope for development and health from our existing guys, but frankly aside from some admittedly pretty awesome flashes from Mitchell in the summer league, none of our current crop has shown they have the chops to replace Hayturd, let alone become a tier 1 all-star level player in the foreseeable future. To just stay at our current level we need someone to step up and fully replace what Traitorward provided, and that is a tall order for anyone in our current crop. Even adding Crowder doesn't do that, but it is better than nothing at this point, as it is at least an asset.

Bottom line, if Haysodomy leaves without us getting some asset in return, we may have put ourselves back far enough to waste Gobert's prime years.

Hopefully DL has some magic card up his sleeve he has yet to play.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Nah, we are alright.

 

[Getting Traded]

Everyone seems to be forgetting about Burks. I see people contemplating the lineup next year and not even mentioning him. Is he really as worthless as everyone, or almost everyone, on here thinks? Could he become the player we once thought he would be?

 

[Park Bites]

judasward

 

[Bawse Dawg]

That title is an abomination.

 

[enchilada_style]

Everyone seems to be forgetting about Burks. I see people contemplating the lineup next year and not even mentioning him. Is he really as worthless as everyone, or almost everyone, on here thinks? Could he become the player we once thought he would be?

He's not worthless but he has to prove that he is over his injuries . Until then I think it's fair to be skeptical.

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[Getting Traded]

He's not worthless but he has to prove that he is over his injuries . Until then I think it's fair to be skeptical.

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Well, if he can return to form and fit in with the current line-up, it will be a huge shot in the arm for the Jazz.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Everyone seems to be forgetting about Burks. I see people contemplating the lineup next year and not even mentioning him. Is he really as worthless as everyone, or almost everyone, on here thinks? Could he become the player we once thought he would be?

I love the kid, but I'm wary of counting on him until he can prove that he can stay healthy. I think that if he does get healthy, his contract is more valuable than his role on the team. Jazz need to play the young'ens and then try to find another Donovan Mitchell in the draft next year.

Timeline for really competing in the playoffs again is in three seasons when Rudy turns 27. Start working towards that.

 

[Revolution 9]

We aren't wasting Gobert's prime.

this season might be a step back but this time next year we'll be in a better position that we are today.

 

[The Midnight]

Gobert's young enough for Mitchell and Exum to catch up.

 

[SCS]

Yeah that pretty much sums it up. Now we are two stars away with time not in our favor in regards to Rudy. That's why I would prefer us to take an approach where we do a mini tank job of sorts for the next 1-2 years. Trade the vets for as many assets as possible, clear cap space, improve our draft position, and play the young guys. Hopefully one of the young guys develops into a stud next to Rudy and we can use the cap space to land a third star. Within 3 years we can be back in business at the top of the West.

 

[Coach Ellis]

We aren't wasting Gobert's prime.

this season might be a step back but this time next year we'll be in a better position that we are today.

Gobert's young enough for Mitchell and Exum to catch up.

This and this. I'm curious to see where we are a year from now. I think the Jazz will be just fine.