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THE TRUTH about Hayworthless and the state of the Jazz after-(whore)ward

Everyone who says we are "just fine" what does that mean exactly? Personally I want to see us get back to the finals and have a shot at winning it. Anything less is not fine, really. By just fine if you mean we will win some games and get into the playoffs without ever really making any noise then yep we are just fine. But losing Hayworthless puts us a step back even from that. If we are "back" to "just fine" in a couple of years that means we are back to a 2nd round playoff exit. I do not feel that is "just fine". Frankly there is a lot of work to be done to ensure we do not waste Gobert's best years. Players need to make serious jumps in talent/ability/effort (Hood/Burks/Mitchell, etc.) or we need to add players of all-star caliber to match with Rudy to make a serious run at it.

But hey, if everyone is ok with repeated playoff exits and no real chance at the ring, then I guess we are just fine.
 
Everyone who says we are "just fine" what does that mean exactly? Personally I want to see us get back to the finals and have a shot at winning it. Anything less is not fine, really. By just fine if you mean we will win some games and get into the playoffs without ever really making any noise then yep we are just fine. But losing Hayworthless puts us a step back even from that. If we are "back" to "just fine" in a couple of years that means we are back to a 2nd round playoff exit. I do not feel that is "just fine". Frankly there is a lot of work to be done to ensure we do not waste Gobert's best years. Players need to make serious jumps in talent/ability/effort (Hood/Burks/Mitchell, etc.) or we need to add players of all-star caliber to match with Rudy to make a serious run at it.

But hey, if everyone is ok with repeated playoff exits and no real chance at the ring, then I guess we are just fine.

Just enjoy the team man.

You being fine or not being fine with the state of the team literally has no barring on what the team does. If you expect loyalty from a guy like Gordon Hayward, then start showing some loyalty for the squad we got now so they want to stay around.
 
Lol, like we were on the path to the finals with Hayward. We should have not put all our eggs in the Hayward basket. We overpayed for Ingles so Hayward could have a buddy.

Time to move Joe and Diaw for some other young talent.
 
Everyone who says we are "just fine" what does that mean exactly?

It means we aren't ****ting blood yet.

Does that make you happy? No one's ****ting blood, and no one has gangrene yet because all the fingers and toes are still there.

Also: no signs of spinal meningitis. What do you think?
 
Personally I have always thought that Haywood was way overrated. Hayward is good but we can replace him. I never wanted him as the face of our franchise. He lacks the fight and passion I want in the "leader" of the team. In hindsight, Haywood just doesn't have Jazz DNA. Guys like Mitchell, Gobert and even ingles have the fight and passion I want.
 
Personally I have always thought that Haywood was way overrated. Hayward is good but we can replace him. I never wanted him as the face of our franchise. He lacks the fight and passion I want in the "leader" of the team. In hindsight, Haywood just doesn't have Jazz DNA. Guys like Mitchell, Gobert and even ingles have the fight and passion I want.

This was a big point in my OP. Hayturd is a good 2nd fiddle, but without a true first fiddle, or a couple of them, we won't be chasing rings anytime soon. Now we don't have that 2nd fiddle anymore either so we are a full 2 solid all-star caliber players from realistically challenging in the playoffs in any meaningful way.
 
Just enjoy the team man.

You being fine or not being fine with the state of the team literally has no barring on what the team does. If you expect loyalty from a guy like Gordon Hayward, then start showing some loyalty for the squad we got now so they want to stay around.

This makes no sense but that is par for your course, so ok.
 
Lol, like we were on the path to the finals with Hayward. We should have not put all our eggs in the Hayward basket. We overpayed for Ingles so Hayward could have a buddy.

Time to move Joe and Diaw for some other young talent.

No one said we were. I said Hayward PLUS Rudy PLUS another tier 1 all-star would make a team that could compete.


Oh wait this response was from MA. Nevermind. Continue in your trolling.
 
Everyone seems to be forgetting about Burks. I see people contemplating the lineup next year and not even mentioning him. Is he really as worthless as everyone, or almost everyone, on here thinks? Could he become the player we once thought he would be?

I reckon he's worth about 3 bucks a kilo and that's generous cause there doesn't look to be much meat on the bone.
 
No one said we were. I said Hayward PLUS Rudy PLUS another tier 1 all-star would make a team that could compete.


Oh wait this response was from MA. Nevermind. Continue in your trolling.
Why am I the troll. Because I have foresight while you we giving Hayward sloppy kisses. Dont be a scorened lover. He is the same player that you love on a different zip code.

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I reckon he's worth about 3 bucks a kilo and that's generous cause there doesn't look to be much meat on the bone.

I hope you're wrong and when he proves otherwise you will own up to it. If not, there's no harm in giving him encouragement. We are fans, after all.
 
I hope you're wrong and when he proves otherwise you will own up to it. If not, there's no harm in giving him encouragement. We are fans, after all.

Dude i hate watching him play, takes heaps of bad shots which are effective turnovers and does nothing off the ball for anyone else. And for 10 million a year, I'd be willing to do that for a lazy 5 million.
 
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