New Idea With Lakers

[LoPo]

Favors and Diaw
for
Randle, Kuzma, Deng, Thomas Bryant and a lottery protected future first.

Why for LA - they think they will get everybody in free agency next year (fat chance) so they need to dump Deng. Favors is a great player to help LA try to make the playoffs and yet he doesn't have a contract that hurts next summer. Kuzma, Bryant and Randle aren't as important as trying to target bigger fish next summer.

Why for us, and I will list the reasons:
1. Favors probably leaves next year anyway. This is great value.
2. I would immediately flip Randle for a first rounder elsewhere. He is a restricted free agent next summer.
3. Bradley, Kuzma and Bryant are three bigs with great potential with varied skill sets. At least 2 (Bradley and Kuzma) will be on fantastic deals longer than Deng's awful deal.
4. This is a deal to hopefully find a gem in either Kuzma or Bryant but also to gain a future first rounder (2 including Randle).
5. I never want to tank, ever. But this deal allows us to play youth which usually means less wins which would probably mean a better 2018 draft pick.
6. Minor here, but Kuzma is a Utah product which would lessen the sting of Favors leaving for some.

We could play Kuzma, Bradley, Deng, Bolomboy and Bryant at PF.

Thoughts?

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[LogGrad98]

I still don't see why LA does this. I think we are greatly over-valuing Favors. I could see them wanting to do a Deng + a pick for Favors directly, that would be about it. In the end we would either eat cap space to take on Deng or have to include players to get the salaries in line, and I would not want to do either. If this trade could go down this way, then hell yeah, but I do not see any way this works in the real world.

 

[Farmer.Tan]

NO MORE DENG, PLEASE!!!!!

 

[SCS]

No. If we take that Deng contract it spells the end of this core. It would be a three year albatross. By the time it's gone Rudy will be 28 and we would still be looking for the right pieces to put around him. No, just no.

 

[LoPo]

I still don't see why LA does this. I think we are greatly over-valuing Favors. I could see them wanting to do a Deng + a pick for Favors directly, that would be about it. In the end we would either eat cap space to take on Deng or have to include players to get the salaries in line, and I would not want to do either. If this trade could go down this way, then hell yeah, but I do not see any way this works in the real world.

LA traded the #2 pick in the draft to unload a contract smaller than Deng's. Randle is an expiring. Kuzma and Bryant are expendable. A lottery protected pick isnt that valuable to a team expecting to get PG and LBJ (in their dreams).

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[LoPo]

No. If we take that Deng contract it spells the end of this core. It would be a three year albatross. By the time it's gone Rudy will be 28 and we would still be looking for the right pieces to put around him. No, just no.

How?

This year is a wash.

Next year, 2018, Hood and Exum start new deals and would be our first year sniffing the luxury. But Burks would be an expiring we could dump.

The next year, 2019, Deng is an expiring we could dump.

We have to avoid the luxury in back to back years. We could easily do that.

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[RandyForRubio]

LA wouldn't do it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Favors and Diaw
for
Randle, Kuzma, Deng, Thomas Bryant and a lottery protected future first.

Why for LA - they think they will get everybody in free agency next year (fat chance) so they need to dump Deng. Favors is a great player to help LA try to make the playoffs and yet he doesn't have a contract that hurts next summer. Kuzma, Bryant and Randle aren't as important as trying to target bigger fish next summer.

Why for us, and I will list the reasons:
1. Favors probably leaves next year anyway. This is great value.
2. I would immediately flip Randle for a first rounder elsewhere. He is a restricted free agent next summer.
3. Bradley, Kuzma and Bryant are three bigs with great potential with varied skill sets. At least 2 (Bradley and Kuzma) will be on fantastic deals longer than Deng's awful deal.
4. This is a deal to hopefully find a gem in either Kuzma or Bryant but also to gain a future first rounder (2 including Randle).
5. I never want to tank, ever. But this deal allows us to play youth which usually means less wins which would probably mean a better 2018 draft pick.
6. Minor here, but Kuzma is a Utah product which would lessen the sting of Favors leaving for some.

We could play Kuzma, Bradley, Deng, Bolomboy and Bryant at PF.

Thoughts?

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I'd want more. That contract is ugly. I'd replace randle with nance jr. And probably replace Favors with something else or route him to a third team for equal expiring deals and pick up and asset.

I'd want two unprotected picks because they can't trade their pick next year or the year after and Kuzma at a minimum. They can keep randle and use him to get off of Clarksons money if they want.

I don't think Deng is as bad as he showed last year. Think he could be a decent small ball 4. I don't think he is completely dead money but the last year of that deal will be ugly.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

LA wouldn't do it.

They have to move him this year if they getting Paul George and another max dude. I'm skeptical they can get it done but I'd try and scoop a ton of assets from them if they believe it. Cost Toronto a first and second for Carroll and I think deng has much more dead money.

I'd start with the two firsts nance and Kuzma and see if they bite.

 

[fishonjazz]

Pretty good trade imo

 

[SCS]

How?

This year is a wash.

Next year, 2018, Hood and Exum start new deals and would be our first year sniffing the luxury. But Burks would be an expiring we could dump.

The next year, 2019, Deng is an expiring we could dump.

We have to avoid the luxury in back to back years. We could easily do that.

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- No cap room for a significant addition in 2018

- No cap room for a significant addition in 2019

- It would be putting all of our eggs into the basket of developing what we have. If none of these youngsters (Hood, Mitchell, Exum, Kuzma, Bradley) develop liked we hoped then we are stuck without cap or top picks to change our situation.

We can take cap dumps and bad contracts but they need to be short contracts. 1 year preferable. 2 years max. We need cap space open because it gives us options and flexibility. We have to find two all star level talents in the next few years and quickly right the ship while Rudy is in his prime. That's impossible to do when you are paying terrible long-term contracts.

 

[Hekate]

Why are you so obsessed with taking on bad contracts?