Goddamnit I'm sorry I have to say it!

[Stoked]

Hayward trained and played his butt off while here. I am thankful for the culture he helped build and the experience he helped bring in a first round win. He was a hell of a player for us.

Hated the way he handled leaving but he's gone. Now it's all about Gobert and his "soldiers".

I've moved on. #TakeNote

 

[Revolution 9]

I guess if it makes you feel better, but Hayward hit game winners before (Cleveland and Dallas)

Trey Burke hit game winners.

 

[Boris]

Hayward didn't get paid Superstar money though. He didn't get the super max. He got paid the appropriate amount, the amount that every team would pay him except maybe GS.

I'm okay with him gone and I think we can recover. That doesn't mean he got paid too much though.

From a market dictated stance sure but from a practical stance no Haywood is not worth that much money. Boston did DL a solid. We will see this in a couple years with hindsight 20 20.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Hayward trained and played his butt off while here. I am thankful for the culture he helped build and the experience he helped bring in a first round win. He was a hell of a player for us.

Hated the way he handled leaving but he's gone. Now it's all about Gobert and his "soldiers".

I've moved on. #TakeNote

Good point. I don't even care how clutch he was. I do know JJ was amazing in the clutch.
That's what we need to teach to these younger players. They need to see that.

It feels good to say I truly don't care now that he is gone and can now see it as a blessing in disguise as one poster stated.
I think DM has helped with a swifter move to the next stage.
I don't even want to bag on what's his name, much. I just don't care now.

 

[Boris]

Hayward trained and played his butt off while here. I am thankful for the culture he helped build and the experience he helped bring in a first round win. He was a hell of a player for us.

Hated the way he handled leaving but he's gone. Now it's all about Gobert and his "soldiers".

I've moved on. #TakeNote

Solid thumb up. Also them sayin Haywood was soft is dumb. He ain't no billy badass but kid always gave it 100% on the court an worked his nuts off.

An for all y'all butt hurt haters Haywood played nearly 40 minutes or more in every playoff game cept one, had 26-40 points in 6 of ten games an stepped up huge in 4th quarters.

So STFU downplaying how good he is an call it like it is. The way he went about his business was like LeBrons Decision.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Not a leader? Sure, I'd agree with that, at least from a vocal perspective.

He was a winner though, through and through. Hayward was never the reason the Jazz didnt win games.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Well, they DID bring Joe Johnson in to kind of be a good solid role player off the bench and to be a TEAM LEADER in the locker room. Would they have needed to do that with like most other players that made the all star team, let alone ANY of the players that made the USA team? Haywood was a wUSSY

Joe Johnson, by all accounts, barely talks. They brought him in for his shooting and professionalism. Like Hayward, he is a leader through example and not through communication.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm not sure I'm there yet, but I'm trying real hard.

I'm genuinely curious his clutchness here, especially the last 2 years. JJ was huge in the clutch and we won that series because of him and not Hayward. If he had 2-3 game winners, how many clutch misses down the stretch did he have?


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This has been talked about to death, but Hayward's clutch stats were right in line with most others stars. Most stars experience pretty wide season to season clutch stats as the samples are so small.

And while JJ was clutch this year, he has also had a bad "clutch" season or two when he was the first option in Atlanta.

 

[addictionary]

Solid thumb up. Also them sayin Haywood was soft is dumb. He ain't no billy badass but kid always gave it 100% on the court an worked his nuts off.

An for all y'all butt hurt haters Haywood played nearly 40 minutes or more in every playoff game cept one, had 26-40 points in 6 of ten games an stepped up huge in 4th quarters.

So STFU downplaying how good he is an call it like it is. The way he went about his business was like LeBrons Decision.

Here I am calling it like it is:

Hayward was not a winner.

He was a very good point forward.

He was considered much more than what he is and a center-piece for many reasons.

He blocked what Jazz might achieve being the center of rebuild. That was not his fault. It's just the way it is.

The game style will change a lot and get faster as we move on from his presence.

Best of luck to him but this way it is better.

GH20

 

[Jazz Spazz]

This has been talked about to death, but Hayward's clutch stats were right in line with most others stars. Most stars experience pretty wide season to season clutch stats as the samples are so small.

And while JJ was clutch this year, he has also had a bad "clutch" season or two when he was the first option in Atlanta.

Good to know. I haven't paid attention to what has been talked to death, but thanks for the info that he was in line with others.

 

[cowhide]

I'm not sure I'm there yet, but I'm trying real hard.

I'm genuinely curious his clutchness here, especially the last 2 years. JJ was huge in the clutch and we won that series because of him and not Hayward. If he had 2-3 game winners, how many clutch misses down the stretch did he have?


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Every player misses clutch shots. Including JJ and Hayward.

 

[enchilada_style]

Gordon is just goofy af.