Will a Jazz player take a knee during the National Anthem this year?

[DutchJazzer]

Well you referred to yourself

"when it comes to business live, i leave my politics aside, so i can maximize my income!"

So I guess it just depends on what it is. Obviously for these players they feel this issue is important and worth risking money for.

yet they complain collin has no job. wether owners just did not want to hire him for wearing a commie fidel shirt or whatever. or maybe he just sucks

now he is jobless!

 

[Ron Mexico]

yet they complain collin has no job. wether owners just did not want to hire him for wearing a commie fidel shirt or whatever. or maybe he just sucks

now he is jobless!

Who is this "they." I have yet to hear Kapernick complain about that and I have yet to hear him say he regrets what he did.

I am pretty sure he is proud of what he has done and that he has brought more light to the fact that black people in this country are being treated worse by police, courts and prisons.

Obviously like you many NFL owners care more about money than their politics. Obviously Kap cares more about his morals.

 

[fishonjazz]

Why even have the national anthem at sporting events? It's entertainment. Do we stand for the anthem before a movie? I can see it for the Olympics or World Cups, when athletes are supposed to be representing their countries. But half our team is international. Respect the game, respect each other. But just do away with anthems.

Agreed

 

[DutchJazzer]

Who is this "they." I have yet to hear Kapernick complain about that and I have yet to hear him say he regrets what he did.

I am pretty sure he is proud of what he has done and that he has brought more light to the fact that black people in this country are being treated worse by police, courts and prisons.

Obviously like you many NFL owners care more about money than their politics. Obviously Kap cares more about his morals.

well cnn and left wing media sources, complained of racism. it was non sotp coverage for a week because miami signed a worse player than kapernick just becuase the bagage keaperneck broyught.

not sure if serious or trolling. but i am not watching nfl, and yet for weeks it was on mainstream and sport news!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLW-fqFoNUk

this is one of many many many complaining articles!
he was being compared to muhamed ali refusing fighting in war!

 

[Jack Strop]

yet they complain collin has no job. wether owners just did not want to hire him for wearing a commie fidel shirt or whatever. or maybe he just sucks

now he is jobless!

Kap sucks. That's why he's not playing. Unless a team designs their offense around him rolling out and running, they won't be successful. Kap can't hit receivers from the pocket. His effectiveness pretty much declined every season after opposing teams learned how to limit the threat of him running. But much like Michael Sam, Kaepernick has turned this into a discrimination/collusion issue.

I agree Cutler isn't a good QB. But what is better for a team to do, revamp their entire offense until an injured starter returns or put in a guy who is going to run the same style offense as a "placeholder?"

 

[Miggs]

Kap sucks. That's why he's not playing. Unless a team designs their offense around him rolling out and running, they won't be successful. Kap can't hit receivers from the pocket. His effectiveness pretty much declined every season after opposing teams learned how to limit the threat of him running. But much like Michael Sam, Kaepernick has turned this into a discrimination/collusion issue.

I agree Cutler isn't a good QB. But what is better for a team to do, revamp their entire offense until an injured starter returns or put in a guy who is going to run the same style offense as a "placeholder?"

I think simplifying the issue by saying he sucks is wrong. He threw 16 touchdowns and just 4 interceptions last year despite having awful weapons around him and playing under the pressure he created. Were they 1-10 when he started? Yes. But that had more to do with a league worst defense than his quarterback play.

Having said that, he was average at best (59% completion percentage) and with the media baggage he'd bring, I don't blame NFL teams for not signing him. It probably just wouldn't be worth the headache. It would have to be the right situation with the right leadership/HC and players. New England. KC with Reid if it wasn't for Alex Smith being there. Or the Ravens with Harbaugh and Ozzie Newsome being one of the best head coach/GM tandems in the league. Supposedly he was going to receive an offer from Baltimore but his girlfriend went and posted a dumbass tweet so the team pulled their future offer. According to Ray Lewis anyway who I feel has no reason to lie.

Lastly, we also truly don't know is if he's received offers and simply turned them down because they were only for backup roles or a contract that didn't meet his financial expectations. We just don't know and for certain people to be critical of teams and their owners, accusing them of racism, given this, is simply irresponsible and wrong.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Kap sucks. That's why he's not playing. Unless a team designs their offense around him rolling out and running, they won't be successful. Kap can't hit receivers from the pocket. His effectiveness pretty much declined every season after opposing teams learned how to limit the threat of him running. But much like Michael Sam, Kaepernick has turned this into a discrimination/collusion issue.

I agree Cutler isn't a good QB. But what is better for a team to do, revamp their entire offense until an injured starter returns or put in a guy who is going to run the same style offense as a "placeholder?"

i dont know anything about footbal, but looking from the outside in. with the news coverage sometimes i get the feeling kape is the lebron of the nfl. but nobody will sign him because muh racism

 

[Ron Mexico]

well cnn and left wing media sources, complained of racism. it was non sotp coverage for a week because miami signed a worse player than kapernick just becuase the bagage keaperneck broyught.

People giving opinions is not allowed? Also opinion pieces are not news.

Kap did not complain but just because other people have seen an Injustice does not mean they can not give their opinions on it.

It's so interesting debate. Is he good enough to be in the NFL? If the answer is yes than why isn't he? Because owners are racist or they care more about money than making the world a better place. To me it's the second one. I find many people are like you in that regard.

The cause he is sticking up for is a well proven fact with plenty of research and data to back it up. I'm glad we have American heroes, willing to sacrifice their career and money to make the world a better place by peacefully bringing attention to a worthy cause. I'm glad he did it in a respectful way as well. What more could you ask if someone? Well, besides giving up on their morals because of pressure.

 

[framer]

I'm fairly certain that wearing apparel celebrating the life and career of Fidel Castro is going to ban you from a public facing job in Miami. Heroes don't worship Commie Dictators. That is the province of shallow attention whores. . .

 

[Jonah]

I'm fairly certain that wearing apparel celebrating the life and career of Fidel Castro is going to ban you from a public facing job in Miami. Heroes don't worship Commie Dictators. That is the province of shallow attention whores. . .

At the risk of repeating myself, the shirt Kaepernick wore was not a Castro shirt or a shirt celebrating the life and career of Castro. It was a Malcolm X meets with Castro in Harlem shirt.

The meeting was in 1960, shortly after the Cuban revolution and before Castro went on to commit the worst of his crimes. At the meeting Castro spoke out against black oppression, this was four years before the Civil Rights Act and still a year before the last documented lynching in the United States, so it should be easy to understand why he was warmly received in Harlem and why the meeting with Malcolm X is still seen as iconic to many in the black community. It had nothing to do with communism. Castro didn’t declare himself a Marxist/Leninist until more that a year later in December 1961.

Kaepernick understood the story behind the meeting depicted on his shirt much better than those who keep repeating the stupid canard that it had anything to do with communism. To Kaepernick the shirt illustrated that more than fifty years ago Malcolm X was inviting foreign leaders to Harlem to speak out against black oppression and yet it still continues, to the extent that he wanted to do his own small part by sitting down while others stand.

 

[Stoked]

At the risk of repeating myself, the shirt Kaepernick wore was not a Castro shirt or a shirt celebrating the life and career of Castro. It was a Malcolm X meets with Castro in Harlem shirt.

The meeting was in 1960, shortly after the Cuban revolution and before Castro went on to commit the worst of his crimes. At the meeting Castro spoke out against black oppression, this was four years before the Civil Rights Act and still a year before the last documented lynching in the United States, so it should be easy to understand why he was warmly received in Harlem and why the meeting with Malcolm X is still seen as iconic to many in the black community. It had nothing to do with communism. Castro didn’t declare himself a Marxist/Leninist until more that a year later in December 1961.

Kaepernick understood the story behind the meeting depicted on his shirt much better than those who keep repeating the stupid canard that it had anything to do with communism. To Kaepernick the shirt illustrated that more than fifty years ago Malcolm X was inviting foreign leaders to Harlem to speak out against black oppression and yet it still continues, to the extent that he wanted to do his own small part by sitting down while others stand.

And I doubt that the Cubans in the greater Miami area would care. But you are correct on the shirt.

 

[DutchJazzer]

People giving opinions is not allowed? Also opinion pieces are not news.

Kap did not complain but just because other people have seen an Injustice does not mean they can not give their opinions on it.

It's so interesting debate. Is he good enough to be in the NFL? If the answer is yes than why isn't he? Because owners are racist or they care more about money than making the world a better place. To me it's the second one. I find many people are like you in that regard.

The cause he is sticking up for is a well proven fact with plenty of research and data to back it up. I'm glad we have American heroes, willing to sacrifice their career and money to make the world a better place by peacefully bringing attention to a worthy cause. I'm glad he did it in a respectful way as well. What more could you ask if someone? Well, besides giving up on their morals because of pressure.

kap has been complaining on social media. even going on with talcum x aka martin luther cream talking about strugles and muh racism!