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Somebody explain Derrick Williams love to a Jazz Fan

billyshelby said:
And you'd redraft Beasley at 2? The point is if Williams is putting up Sap numbers as a 3 in the NBA, he's absolutely worth the 2. If he's doing that as a 4, he isn't. And it's kind of weird you'd draft anybody at the 2 not sure if he can play the one position you need him to be good at.
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He is physically Beasley (but actually stronger), and mentally is a winner and humble. He doesn't think he is above his teammates. Not to mention he wasn't even a top 100 ranked HS player coming into college. He has worked hard for his success and will continue to improve.
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
He is physically Beasley (but actually stronger), and mentally is a winner and humble. He doesn't think he is above his teammates. Not to mention he wasn't even a top 100 ranked HS player coming into college. He has worked hard for his success and will continue to improve.
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An important difference between D. Williams and Beasley is that Beasley's 1st option is his jumper. Beasley's second option is jab step and jumper. And then he might decide to drive. Williams shoots his jumper only when needed to keep the defense honest. He is looking to drive and draw fouls as options 1 and 2.
 
OK, I am now officially on the Derrick Williams bandwagon. I hope Kanter impresses enough at the combine that he goes #1 or #2!
 
Qman said:
An important difference between D. Williams and Beasley is that Beasley's 1st option is his jumper. Beasley's second option is jab step and jumper. And then he might decide to drive. Williams shoots his jumper only when needed to keep the defense honest. He is looking to drive and draw fouls as options 1 and 2.
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This is Chad Ford's pre-draft assessment of Beasley: "Great athlete with long arms. Deep, deep range on his jump shot. Excellent hands. Amazing rebounder. Will score on you inside and out. Uses power in the post combined with excellent leaping ability. Has an excellent jump shot with NBA 3-point range. Has the versatility to play both the 3 and the 4 on virtually every team in the league."

Sounds a lot like Williams to me. Moral of the story: Playing 4 in college, and then transitioning to the 3 in the NBA isn't so easy.
 
Moral of the story being you don't want Williams. Duly noted....I'll just keep living my life and liking Williams.

Who do you want at 3 then?
 
Bodhi said:
Moral of the story being you don't want Williams. Duly noted....I'll just keep living my life and liking Williams.

Who do you want at 3 then?
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I never said I don't want Williams. I only said I have doubts he can transition to the 3. And I don't like having to hope the 2nd pick in the draft can play the only position worth drafting him at. The crazy thing is Beasley absolutely dwarfed Williams stats with the same frame playing the same position and has better athleticism. Yeah, he's got a seriously questionable head, but most super talented players from college translate so long as they play their same position. Cousins is a case in point. I'm having a very hard time seeing Williams being better than Beasley.
 
I don't know that I would concede that Beasley is a better athlete, I guess athletic measurements at the combine will tell us that.

That said, if Beasley didn't have the "mental" issues it could easily be argued he'd be an even better player. Dude has all the tools but about 30% of the mental capacity of even an average, competitive NBA player. He's like Lennie from Of Mice And Men.
 
billyshelby said:
This is Chad Ford's pre-draft assessment of Beasley: "Great athlete with long arms. Deep, deep range on his jump shot. Excellent hands. Amazing rebounder. Will score on you inside and out. Uses power in the post combined with excellent leaping ability. Has an excellent jump shot with NBA 3-point range. Has the versatility to play both the 3 and the 4 on virtually every team in the league."

Sounds a lot like Williams to me. Moral of the story: Playing 4 in college, and then transitioning to the 3 in the NBA isn't so easy.
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There is more to the game than raw talent or skill. Beasley's shot-selection has always been questionable, as has his mental fortitude. Williams is not Beasley.
 
billyshelby said:
This is Chad Ford's pre-draft assessment of Beasley: "Great athlete with long arms. Deep, deep range on his jump shot. Excellent hands. Amazing rebounder. Will score on you inside and out. Uses power in the post combined with excellent leaping ability. Has an excellent jump shot with NBA 3-point range. Has the versatility to play both the 3 and the 4 on virtually every team in the league."

Sounds a lot like Williams to me. Moral of the story: Playing 4 in college, and then transitioning to the 3 in the NBA isn't so easy.
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Beasley is also a pot head, dumber than a box of rocks, and incredibly immature - he was kicked out of a movie theater a few months ago....
Even with that said, Beasley did average 20 ppg last year, not exactly shabby for a 22 year old.
 
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