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Let's say we had acquired Mitotic, and that he played well for 1.5 years before heading into free agency. So, right as he's turning 28.5 years old he signs a big contract that commits the team to him, Rudy, and then Mitchell.

I just don't think that the timing and talent synchs up very well... especially if you're giving a first.

Or let's just say I'm not confident that's the best way to maximize Rudy's prime. Let's get a playmaker at the 4, pls
 
NAOS said:
Let's say we had acquired Mitotic, and that he played well for 1.5 years before heading into free agency. So, right as he's turning 28.5 years old he signs a big contract that commits the team to him, Rudy, and then Mitchell.

I just don't think that the timing and talent synchs up very well... especially if you're giving a first.

Or let's just say I'm not confident that's the best way to maximize Rudy's prime. Let's get a playmaker at the 4, pls
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So giving a four year deal to a guy in his prime who, despite being a lot more athletic than given credit for, has a game that will age well, is a bad idea? Ok. Wake me up when we’ve got the opportunity to swing for a young Durant.
 
Jazz are clearing a max slot for LBJ. The old king can play alongside the young king. What else do you think LeBron was whispering to Donovan? Also, LeBron is just tired of losing in Utah.
 
Also, it seems even his skeptics seem to think that in our system he’d at least be a Memo or more, which is interesting they feel that way because the idea that people wouldn’t give up a middling first round pick for Memo is ****ing ridiculous.
 
infection said:
Also, it seems even his skeptics seem to think that in our system he’d at least be a Memo or more, which is interesting they feel that way because the idea that people wouldn’t give up a middling first round pick for Memo is ****ing ridiculous.
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You keep cruising by the costs, and the cap considerations. It's fun.
 
NAOS said:
You keep cruising by the costs, and the cap considerations. It's fun.
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Alright. Let’s talk cost, then. What do you see him getting in 2019 and for how long? Being able to have a hard look at a guy in our system for 1.5 years gives us a good evaluation. Is he going to play his way into a $80/4 year deal that’s too much?
 
infection said:
So giving a four year deal to a guy in his prime who, despite being a lot more athletic than given credit for, has a game that will age well, is a bad idea? Ok. Wake me up when we’ve got the opportunity to swing for a young Durant.
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Yeah, the young Durant who played PF

:eyeroll:
 
infection said:
Alright. Let’s talk cost, then. What do you see him getting in 2019 and for how long? Being able to have a hard look at a guy in our system for 1.5 years gives us a good evaluation. Is he going to play his way into a $80/4 year deal that’s too much?
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I think the evidence suggests that I would feel just about the same level of conflict at the idea of paying Niko $20/yr as I am right now when I think about paying Hood the same amount.
 
infection said:
Also, it seems even his skeptics seem to think that in our system he’d at least be a Memo or more, which is interesting they feel that way because the idea that people wouldn’t give up a middling first round pick for Memo is ****ing ridiculous.
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I really didn't like Memo and would've traded him for a mid-1st in basically
Any given year past 2007.
 
NAOS said:
I think the evidence suggests that I would feel just about the same level of conflict at the idea of paying Niko $20/yr as I am right now when I think about paying Hood the same amount.
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That is ****ing ridiculous.
 
NAOS said:
I think the evidence suggests that I would feel just about the same level of conflict at the idea of paying Niko $20/yr as I am right now when I think about paying Hood the same amount.
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Yeah, but what I’m asking is what you think he’ll end up getting in 2019 — or we just are certain the risk is too high?
 
infection said:
Yeah, but what I’m asking is what you think he’ll end up getting in 2019 — or we just are certain the risk is too high?
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There'll be plenty of teams swinging for the fences that offseason. Those who miss on their first options will be holding plenty of cash. stretch 4s and power wings on the 2nd tier will cash in.
 
NAOS said:
There'll be plenty of teams swinging for the fences that offseason. Those who miss on their first options will be holding plenty of cash. stretch 4s and power wings on the 2nd tier will cash in.
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Ok. So we don’t know how it will turn out with him but there’s enough risk of him being overpaid that we don’t want to give up ‘8 years of control’ (this is the new “3 months of heavy lifting,” TBH) on a guy that we don’t even know will be in the league during Niko’s next contract.
 
Here are a couple things I would say, though. Three years ago the vast majority of us would not have given up Favors for the Zinger. We overvalued Favors. Likewise, when faced with the reality of knowing who Zinger was (when the allure and mystique of “who could your pick become” turns into “here’s three guys your pick could be), people didn’t value it near as much. I suppose when we get closer to draft time there may be some people we like, but it’s very likely the guys we like are off the board and the hope of the pick can go from “the next Donovan Mitchell” to “a destitute man’s Trey Burke.”
 
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my question is if he didn't move the needle, who are we realistically looking at getting as our 4 who is going to fit our non shooting squad ?
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The question without an answer. The question I’d like posed to DL.
 
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