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Any retired jerseys before Gobert?

Bulletproof said:
Based on that criteria, yeah sort of. But... Eaton was OG. That counts for something. He also has the record for career blocks per game at 3.5. He almost nabbed the record for career blocks in just above half the time it took Jabbar to get it. Eaton was the real deal. His story was also cool.

Hornacek is there because he put over the Jazz over the hump to get to the finals. He was the 3rd guy in the "big-3" that made that Jazz team elite. That team was amazing. Those seasons that led to finals were unbelievable. He was a huge part of that. It wasn't just what his stats were then, it's what his place on the team did to bring the Jazz to the next level. Hornacek earned every bit of his jersey being retired.
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SOB beat me to it.
 
Bulletproof said:
Based on that criteria, yeah sort of. But... Eaton was OG. That counts for something. He also has the record for career blocks per game at 3.5. He almost nabbed the record for career blocks in just above half the time it took Jabbar to get it. Eaton was the real deal. His story was also cool.

Hornacek is there because he put the Jazz over the hump to get to the finals. He was the 3rd guy in the "big-3" that made that Jazz team elite. That team was amazing. Those seasons that led to finals were unbelievable. He was a huge part of that. It wasn't just what his stats were then, it's what his place on the team did to bring the Jazz to the next level. Hornacek earned every bit of his jersey being retired.
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Yeah, but if the criteria for getting in is just putting up a lot of unique stats + career longevity, AK did that too.

And as to infection critique on Andre falling off in the 2nd half of his career, Eaton kind of did the same did he not?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, but if the criteria for getting in is just putting up a lot of unique stats + career longevity, AK did that too.

And as to infection critique on Andre falling off in the 2nd half of his career, Eaton kind of did the same did he not?
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He holds the career record for blocks per game.

AK fell off for as far as what I can tell were mental reasons and because Sloan didn't make him the focus of the offense. Eaton gave it his all and just started breaking down. He called it quits when it was clear he couldn't do it anymore.
 
Bulletproof said:
He holds the career record for blocks per game.

AK fell off for as far as what I can tell were mental reasons and because Sloan didn't make him the focus of the offense. Eaton gave it his all and just started breaking down. He called it quits when it was clear he couldn't do it anymore.
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Yeah and AK is #2 in blocks, #4 in steals, #7 in games played, #5 in assist, #6 in points, and #7 in rebounds. Though his raw stats fell of in the 2nd half of his career, his advanced stats (which people didnt care about as much back then) were always high.
 
A case can certainly be made for AK.
In today's world, I doubt he'd have the same nickname, but yeah, it was perfect at the time.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah and AK is #2 in blocks, #4 in steals, #7 in games played, #5 in assist, #6 in points, and #7 in rebounds. Though his raw stats fell of in the 2nd half of his career, his advanced stats (which people didnt care about as much back then) were always high.
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I'm not really against AK, but it just wasn't a good story there at the end. His 5x5 and his really unique skills. I said it in this thread already, but I really liked AK. He had a certain physical intelligence/genius that was so beautiful to watch. He was special AF. I almost wish the Jazz had built around him more and had never had Deron or Boozer. I don't know that the team would have had more success, but it would have been more interesting.
 
Bulletproof said:
I'm not really against AK, but it just wasn't a good story there at the end. His 5x5 and his really unique skills. I said it in this thread already, but I really liked AK. He had a certain physical intelligence/genius that was so beautiful to watch. He was special AF. I almost wish the Jazz had built around him more and had never had Deron or Boozer. I don't know that the team would have had more success, but it would have been more interesting.
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I think the real argument, and this isnt going to be popular, the Jazz should have probably moved on from Sloan quicker.
 
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Nobody. I'm sure a weak case can be made for a bunch of players. Nobody stayed long enough and had been good enough to even seriously consider.
 
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