Bawse Dawg
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So Sixers are the only ones who figured out that throwing the ball to open three point shooters is a good idea? Or is it actually harder than it looks because only LeBron and Simmons run offenses that way.
It's the system. Doesn't mean other other teams don't run similar systems with high assist players.So Sixers are the only ones who figured out that throwing the ball to open three point shooters is a good idea? Or is it actually harder than it looks because only LeBron and Simmons run offenses that way.
Seems a tad harsh attributing the system to giving triple doubles because he brings the ball up, he is the point guard on the team.
If the consensus that Ben is as good in stats due to the system 76ers run what are peoples thoughts on the Jazz system for DM, does the Jazz style hurt or help his game?
So Sixers are the only ones who figured out that throwing the ball to open three point shooters is a good idea? Or is it actually harder than it looks because only LeBron and Simmons run offenses that way.
Simmons is not good at stats because of the system. They just boost his stats.Seems a tad harsh attributing the system to giving triple doubles because he brings the ball up, he is the point guard on the team.
If the consensus that Ben is as good in stats due to the system 76ers run what are peoples thoughts on the Jazz system for DM, does the Jazz style hurt or help his game?
Good point, let's see how many of Ben's regular season rebounds just bounced to him. Prove our point even more. muh triple doubles.Let’s not talk about how 6 of Mitchell’s 10 rebounds bounced right to him though.
Let’s not talk about how 6 of Mitchell’s 10 rebounds bounced right to him though.
So Sixers are the only ones who figured out that throwing the ball to open three point shooters is a good idea? Or is it actually harder than it looks because only LeBron and Simmons run offenses that way.
Hurt I guess coz if he had more shooting bigs, he would have more space to cut and slash.Seems a tad harsh attributing the system to giving triple doubles because he brings the ball up, he is the point guard on the team.
If the consensus that Ben is as good in stats due to the system 76ers run what are peoples thoughts on the Jazz system for DM, does the Jazz style hurt or help his game?
It’s me, but it was definitely a mistake to jump into this thread.I hope Bawse Dawg can get his account back from this douche who hacked it.
Say that Simmons is the next LeBron is a disrespect to the King.
Simmons is a point guard who uses his size, goes to the post and passes the ball to one of the great shooter they have (Saric, Covington, JJ Redick, Belinelli). Catch and shoot. All night long.
He is a very good player. But NO WAY he is more talented than Mitchell. Mitchell is a better player.
Neither Simmons or Mitchell is getting goat talk, so that is a moot point. But yes I like to give you and other Simmons homers a hard time for being unreasonable. Such as thinking Simmons is in a GOAT conversation. Yes, I find it slightly annoying that you and utahjazzz post more about Simmons than about the Jazz who is your supposed favorite team, but I know a lot of it is just trolling. But mostly I like talking about him and showing his flaws that he has a bunch of because you guys loose your minds about it and freak out. So yes, some of it is trolling from me but I guess some of you cant take your own medicine.
I definitely have biases, every sports fan does. I like certain players more than others. I like the Jazz more than other teams and 76ers more than any East team. That makes me watch those teams and scrutinize players more and cheer for them more when I like them.
You are the one who thinks you dont have any bias for some strange reason.
There is no stat from game 1 that shows Simmons was the best player on the court. His teammates played at a very high level. Reddick and Belinilli were incredible and Saric was very good that game. +/-, PER, net rating and so on all show that Simmons had a low impact that game in comparison to his teammates and it was very obvious watching it. But I guess you already admitted that I could be right on this or at least its a reasonable conclusion so I guess we can move on.
I don't hate Simmon's. But between his quotes, his on court elbows and shoulders and more importantly homer fans like you he is hard to cheer for. Thankfully I really enjoy Embiid and his personality and think 76ers coach is great and has a great system. Brown has done wonders for Simmons as well stat wise and have a great team around him. I want him to help the team win though. I feel similar with Simmons that I used to feel with Boozer when he was on my favorite team the Jazz.
You are right it was in the other thread I talked about his defense, my bad. I get all these threads you Simmons homers like to talk about him in. Simmons is a good defender but he was subpar in that first game. He stood around flat footed and lost his guy a few times and got beat off the dribble more than usual. Again for your clarification he was still good but subpar for his usual defense.
He was much better game 2 all around except the final couple minutes when he was useless.
I dont think any Jazz fans care about that. Mitchell gets a ton of positive attention around the league. He has the respect of most players in the league and outside of Philly/Simmons fans the respect of fans.
I think it is the other way around. Simmons fans cant handle Mitchell's attention and feel a need to belittle him to prop up their guy. Most Jazz fans can admit Simmons is really good and see where there is an argument for ROY of the year with him. Simmons/76ers fans are incapable of doing the same the other way. To me its entertaining, you Simmons fans get very worked up about everything positive said about Mitchell and any body commenting on the many flaws of Simmons game.
I was a huge Allen Iverson fan when he was with Philly. This has made me like them and keep an eye on them ever since. Embiid has made me enjoy watching them again.
He is just like most other 76ers and/or Simmons fan. I enjoy giving him a hard time because he makes himself look really dumb over and over again. Interactions with him irritate some people on this board but they make me laugh. Although I dont really understand the people who are irritated by him and dont just put him on ignore.
We are very used to this happening and know that most of you will be gone when the players leave. We have had it with Russian fans, Turkey fans and so on over the years. Some of the good ones will stick around. We have some great posters from Turkey still despite Okur and Kanter being gone. It also happens with college team fans when we draft their guy. Its just a part of sports. But it is fun to give them a hard time when they are irrational. Such as people on this board who think Exum is being mistreated by Snyder or held back by him.
So here are my questions for you.
Who is your ROY vote?
Who had a better game 1 performance in the playoffs Mitchell or Simmons?
Simmons is not good at stats because of the system. They just boost his stats.
Simmons would not get the rebounds or assist numbers if he was on the Jazz. But he would still get good numbers. My guess is around 17 ppg, 5 boards and 5 assists. We dont have the PG come back for the rebounds off misses we let the bigs get them and make the outlet pass. We also move the ball around a lot and dont have a primary guy distributing the ball. Look at Rubios assists numbers for an idea of what would happen.
Mitchell is also helped by the system he is in but in a different way. Mitchell is relied on a lot for offense that he probably would not be in other systems. Our system also creates a lot of open looks for players. We are one of the best teams in the NBA and drive and kicks.
Fun fact: Magic Johnson shot 81% FT his rookie year. Simmons is shooting 56% FT.He’s a first (or second lol) year player....
And putting ‘be LeBron or you aren’t good enough’ expectations on a guy is the most unfair thing imaginable. The dude looks like ****ing Magic Johnson out there (who also couldn’t shoot).
Simmons is not good because of the system. He's a very good player. He gets so many TDs because of the system. If Simmons was PGing for the Jazz, he would not average eight and a half assists a game, given how the Jazz move the ball. Rubio's assists went down in half once he joined the Jazz. Assists are, in general, related to the system you're playing. Jordan played off the ball a lot of the time with Chicago. There was one season where, due to personnel issues, Jordan played PG and intiated the offense on every possession. His assists doubled. He didn't become a better passer all of a sudden for one season. The system changed.
Pretty much anyone playing primary ball handler on the Sixers would get plenty of assists.
Philly was a 10 win team two years ago. Utah was a 50 win team last year. People just seem to forget that and assume Hayward accounted for most of those wins. Just as it seems many put down Philly's success largely down to Embiid. That stuff gets cloudy.