Are presidents above the law?

[One Brow]

Took me five seconds to five seconds to find this:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...lead-single-payer-health-care-bill/403549002/

Perhaps you should have spent another five seconds reading it.

DNC chairman Tom Perez has said “health care is a right,” but he has signaled achieving single-payer health care is unrealistic.

One bill in the Republican-dominated House is not the same a major party support. It's easy to sign up for bills you know have no chance of passing, to look good to your base.

 

[JazzGal]

At least someone on the left gets it. Mostly the commentary on both extremes is completely unhinged.

I'm not really "on the left." I just appear that way because the right has moved so far away from me. I'm an independent and a centrist. Since I'm forced into a two-party system, I identify more with the Democrat platform, but their party politics are nearly as ridiculous as the Republicans. So I vote and hope for better options someday.

 

[Zombie]

Forgive me. I don't recall what two specific examples you pointed out. I don't think it's true that Trump has been more antagonistic to free market capitalism than Obama, though. Not even close.

Maybe you should try reading the posts you respond to then. My statement on free trade was in reference to his fairly highly publicized trade war with China and tarriffs on various Canadian and European imports. The other policy I mentioned was forcing energy markets to buy power from failing coal and nuclear plants.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

There is no major political in the US trying to further the socialistic system.

FIFY

As you know and @Wes Mantooth pointed out, we are socialists. It's a spectrum, a continuum

Where I give @Joe Bagadonuts credit is when Newsweek wrote that article "We Are All Socialists Now". I thought that whole conundrum was a turning point where many people realized it who had not before.

 

[Zombie]

FIFY

As you know and @Wes Mantooth pointed out, we are socialists. It's a spectrum, a continuum

Where I give @Joe Bagadonuts credit is when Newsweek wrote that article "We Are All Socialists Now". I thought that whole conundrum was a turning point where many people realized it who had not before.

For real. As something of a leftist myself I hate it when we hide from the word socialism or treat it like a bad word.

There's nothing wrong with a more socialized health care system. It's not like the free market has done a bang up job for us imo.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Perhaps you should have spent another five seconds reading it.

DNC chairman Tom Perez has said “health care is a right,” but he has signaled achieving single-payer health care is unrealistic.

One bill in the Republican-dominated House is not the same a major party support. It's easy to sign up for bills you know have no chance of passing, to look good to your base.

Many Democrats clearly support single payer healthcare. Five seconds more of reading proves that I was correct, not you.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I'm not really "on the left." I just appear that way because the right has moved so far away from me. I'm an independent and a centrist. Since I'm forced into a two-party system, I identify more with the Democrat platform, but their party politics are nearly as ridiculous as the Republicans. So I vote and hope for better options someday.

I'm the same as you, except that I'm on the right. There is no place for centrists anymore.

But my point was that it's nice to see that someone whose political leanings are to the left is able to acknowledge that the left is doing itself no favors with the unhinged Trump hate. It would be far more effective to attack him for what he has actually said and done instead of for what they purport his ulterior motives to be.

 

[Miggs]

You should go back an reread what he wrote. He asked what Colton thought moderates would need to do to take their party back from the Trumpers. The point being that the 'moderate' wing of the GOP is politically dead within its own party.

I suppose I’m to blame but I can only take Thriller in small doses.

 

[Miggs]

You're calling me names? How old are you?

42.

EAD.

 

[Miggs]

And if it upsets you, too bad. Hopefully it’ll prevent you from continuing to embarrass yourself and think before you speak.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

For real. As something of a leftist myself I hate it when we hide from the word socialism or treat it like a bad word.

There's nothing wrong with a more socialized health care system. It's not like the free market has done a bang up job for us imo.

It's already socialized but under a free market system. Not changing that was possibly my biggest beef with Obama. I still have the same people ask me over and over how I'm not worried about Obamacare. It's basically the same damn system but was designed as a huge giveaway to health insurers. Minor tweaks that were good but that's it.

My boss attended a speech by Senator Hatch to our legislature on the hill years ago and he said socialized medicine will come. Hatch isn't known as a leftist by any stretch (he is but cant publicly act so).

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

And if it upsets you, too bad. Hopefully it’ll prevent you from continuing to embarrass yourself and think before you speak.

Oh, so I should call you names when I don't agree with you?