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Following Potential 2018 Draftees

LoPo gonna LoPo

Explain. What's out of bounds with my logic? Please show me anything that says Nkilitina is untouchable. Please show me anything that establishes his value.

LoPo speculates because that's what LoPo does. It's food for thought. That's it. This isn't a mock draft, but a possible scenario for what we do with our pick.
 
Who needs ESPN Trade Machine when we have LOPO

Watch ESPN fire some dudes and bring him in
 
Damn, first time watching Jerome Robinson today as I see he's in our range ... that boy can ball!


Anyone else see a bit of a 'Lillard' or 'McCollum' vibe from him? Older guy from a small school with chip on his shoulder, something to prove, really good scorer who can knock down 3's and is explosive enough to finish at the rim? Seems like a really smart player too.


I really like this guy for us next to Mitchell.

Value pick version of Jamal Murray.
 
Like I said, I don't know and you are speculating too. Many say this draft is stronger last year's. It's very obvious that the Knicks do not think Frank is their PG of the future. I like the kid, but he played 22mpg, scored 5.9ppg on 36% shooting.

So overall, Nkilitina was drafted too high in a weaker draft and didn't play all that well last year. If you re-drafted 2017, he wouldn't be a lottery pick. He might not be top 20. The Knicks are going to do whatever it takes to get Trae Young. They don't really have many assets to get the other pick necessary to move up a few spots.

I could definitely see the Knicks trading us Nkilitina so they could trade #9 and #21 to Chicago for #7. Chicago likes a few players at #7 who will be there at #9 (Wendell Carter, Bridges, Bridges, etc.).
Okay so they want to trade with the Bulls:

What seems reasonable?

“We’ll trade you number 9 and the promising Frankie Nicotine for #7”

Or

“We’ll trade the promising Frankie Nicotine for the 21st pick, and then we’ll trade you #21 and #9 for #7”
 
Dude, FN is soooo much more valuable than #21. He’s a proven solid player in the NBA. You don’t get that at 21. It’s not even close.

He was drafted #8 last year and is considered a pretty good pick. Could we get pick #10 for 21 this year?
IDK if I would say proven, but they arent just going to give up on the 8th overall pick for the 21st pick.
 
Okay so they want to trade with the Bulls:

What seems reasonable?

“We’ll trade you number 9 and the promising Frankie Nicotine for #7”

Or

“We’ll trade the promising Frankie Nicotine for the 21st pick, and then we’ll trade you #21 and #9 for #7”

The Bulls might not want Nkilitina because they have Kris Dunn, Zach LaVine and Cameron Payne.
 
Yeah... I wouldn't say he's proven either, but he's proven he can play NBA level defense. Lets see what he can do on offense in the next year or two.
 
IDK if I would say proven, but they arent just going to give up on the 8th overall pick for the 21st pick.

Yeah, but everybody says Nkilitina was drafted too high. So what is his real value with the regards to 2017? 13-15? Now if this draft is stronger, the #15 pick in 2017 might be worth the #20 pick in 2018. The main thing in the entire conversation is this - NY has given up on him for the role for which he was drafted. His stock is at an all time low and I like buying low.
 
Regarding Robinson...


Is his defense really that bad? Is it effort, technique or ability? Could it improve with coaching? Can he play in stretches as a scorer knowing he probably won't be playing in the closing minutes?

It might be a case where he was needed so much on offense that he coasted on defense. Hard to say. That's one reason he needs to workout.
 
LMAO i'm tempted to make the 2025 draftees thread. Joel Embiid, Steph Curry and Nate Robinson talking on IG bout 2006-born Oliver Rioux. Who's 12 and 7' and cordinated and for some reason is playing vs kids his age on 8' hoops. He's Canadian.

Best highlights ever btw. **** had me rolling.


8-foot baskets. Canada is so weird with sports. When I played football there they had 3 downs and not 4.

That kid needs better competition, stat.
 
He's more athletic and slightly bigger which helps him finish better in traffic and at the rim, but their perimeter game is similar(Harvey had some sick stepbacks too). And their defensive deficiencies especially are eerily similar.
Comparisons are fun, but they say nothing of potential NBA success or lack of. In that sense they are pretty silly. Two completely different players.

For example his game could be compared to a guy like Harvey who never did anything or I've seen a lot of comparisons to Rip Hamilton who was a very successful player in the league.

Reality is his career will likely be very different than both players.
 
Regarding Robinson...




Is his defense really that bad? Is it effort, technique or ability? Could it improve with coaching? Can he play in stretches as a scorer knowing he probably won't be playing in the closing minutes?
Not as bad as they are saying. About average. Had to score a lot at BC, could be better on D without the scoring load responsibility.
 


I don't know if I can keep my support for MPJ anymore. This is becoming worrying. I said when I posted my big board that I didn't take into account whatever medical issues players have because I don't have their records and I'm in no position to judge their health... but... this is not good.
 
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