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Stars Fan said:
As for faulty or incomplete memory, that's how it works with trauma. I work with vets, many of whom suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Injuries. (I generally oppose the use of the commonly used PTSD tag as it stigmatizes the issue. ) Many of them have vivid images and memories of specific parts of the event, e.g. the smell in the air, the color of the car etc., and yet not remember other things like why they were on the mission or in that location in the first place. Sexual trauma is very similar, from the limited people I have worked with that have experienced it, and from the literature I have read. I would not discount her story based her not recalling whose house the party was at.

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Regardless, it is impossible to rely on her memory of an event that happened over three decades ago, and it does not strengthen her case that her "witness" doesn't recall the event at all or that she doesn't remember other details. Certain significant events occurred in my teenage years. I remember exactly where they happened... or at least, I believe I do.

I recall a vivid memory from my own childhood that I told people about many times, and then one day I saw an old photo that made it obvious that I had mis-remembered a key detail. Not only is memory imperfect, but it gets more imperfect every time we incorrectly remember an event. There are many possible explanations for what this woman is remembering, but no way to know if any of them are actually true.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Regardless, it is impossible to rely on her memory of an event that happened over three decades ago, and it does not strengthen her case that her "witness" doesn't recall the event at all or that she doesn't remember other details. Certain significant events occurred in my teenage years. I remember exactly where they happened... or at least, I believe I do.

I recall a vivid memory from my own childhood that I told people about many times, and then one day I saw an old photo that made it obvious that I had mis-remembered a key detail. Not only is memory imperfect, but it gets more imperfect every time we incorrectly remember an event. There are many possible explanations for what this woman is remembering, but no way to know if any of them are actually true.
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WTF is wrong with you? Of course you would remember a dude pinning you down, gagging you and trying to rip your clothes off. Everything else is irrelevant.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Regardless, it is impossible to rely on her memory of an event that happened over three decades ago, and it does not strengthen her case that her "witness" doesn't recall the event at all or that she doesn't remember other details. Certain significant events occurred in my teenage years. I remember exactly where they happened... or at least, I believe I do.

I recall a vivid memory from my own childhood that I told people about many times, and then one day I saw an old photo that made it obvious that I had mis-remembered a key detail. Not only is memory imperfect, but it gets more imperfect every time we incorrectly remember an event. There are many possible explanations for what this woman is remembering, but no way to know if any of them are actually true.
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Str8line posted:
..."Of course you would remember a dude pinning you down, gagging you and trying to rip your clothes off. Everything else is irrelevant."
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This.

It's not that she does not recall things accurately because she has lapses in her recall, it's that she remembers some details too clearly. If they were in HS together, she would see him in school all the time. and that would help cement in her memory the guy "who held her down and covered her mouth" while trying to.... what? rape her? grope her?

We don't have to rely on her memory alone...bring in others from HS, or the party, see what they have to say. Or sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't matter. You make the call. How would you proceed if it were your call?
 


Not a great look. I don't really give a **** if he 'asked to be involved in this,' Mrs Ford certainly didn't. He should be called to testify under oath.
 
Stoked said:
Only real question remaining imo is if this swayed Murkowski and the other 2-3 senators that remain undecided.
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I would imagine her not talking isn’t going to help her case.

Again, what a mess.

I hope she does change her mind. She’s already gone this far, might as well finish it.
 
She isn't going to attend a hearing until her claims are investigated by the FBI. She's actually inviting more scrutiny into her claims. I think this is wise so that those who would do the questioning have all the facts at their disposal.

There is precedent for this, contrary to what some senators who should know better are saying *cough* Orrin Hatch *cough.*

The FBI investigated Anita Hills claims during the Clarence Thomas' confirmation.
 
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JustTheTip said:
The burden of proof shouldn’t change based on what is at stake.
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I just got done doing several interviews for a new job. You think they should have needed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I wasn't qualified in order to not hire me? What?
 
JustTheTip said:
I would imagine her not talking isn’t going to help her case.

Again, what a mess.

I hope she does change her mind. She’s already gone this far, might as well finish it.
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You talk as if you think her goal is to get this over with. She is a hero to the left for obstructing. At every turn you can now expect her to take the least expedient path. Both sides have become experts at doing this to each other.

And btw, if there really were death threats I hope they prosecute those losers to the fullest extent of the law.
 
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