Gamethread: Indiana Pacers @ Utah Jazz. 7PM MST

[Saint Cy of JFC]

WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST WE DO JFC? PLZ FILL US IN.

Don't respond to another poster like a complete jackass when he's making a valid point.

As far as what the Jazz need to do:

If they are going to go with the defensive heavy lineup of Royce/Favors in the starting lineup they have to cut out turnovers. I think those lineups can work offensively, but they cant give up free points in transition.

As far as Jazzta's point about over doing the offensive motions, the Jazz have to take open shots, even if it's from the bad shooters. Quin might need to throw Allen in the fire. He's the one guy on the team with offensive talent who will put up open shots without hesitation.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

News flash - Exum and O'Neale can't be blamed for this horse **** form we have shown this year.

They are as much to blame as anyone. It’s been a team wide suck effort and -all the guards on our ‘deep’ bench playing like ********* that has regressed is significant.

It’s no better to blame Favors and Rubio for everything than O’Neale and Exum.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

In the past two years, the Jazz have lost George Hill, Rodney Hood, Gordon Hayward and Joe Johnson. Joe Ingles has stepped up and Donovan Mitchell has takeoverability (Bolerism), but we've still lost a lot of shooting and shot creation. Even Shelvin Mack could be counted on to come in and make a few layups.

The Jazz need to add one rock-solid shooter to the roster at a minimum, someone who plays enough defense to stay on the floor.

Favors is strictly a 5, and Crowder should have his role and minutes reduced. Put a real shooter on the floor with Mitchell, Ingles and Gobert, and you can probably get away with playing Rubio as your primary PG.

 

[RickyStan]

Could have signed Jabari or Lavine this summer. They have offense.

I didnt hear any support for those moves. So y'all should stop complaining. You offered no solutions in the offseason.

You cant sign imaginary players.

Bjelica

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

They are as much to blame as anyone. It’s been a team wide suck effort and -all the guards on our ‘deep’ bench playing like ********* that has regressed is significant.

It’s no better to blame Favors and Rubio for everything than O’Neale and Exum.

I really don't think anyone foresaw Exum and O'Neale being this impotent on offense. I think we all expected some modicum of improvement on their ends, especially in the shooting department.

I'm not say they are 100% to blame, but those two are the main factors of our offense "looking ugly". When we have Crowder and Rubio in, it looks better, but it's not like they are performing well. Crowder has regressed back to post-trade Crowder where he plays hard and does the rights things, but can't get shots to fall to save his life.

I think Rubio is starting to turn a corner this year, but we can't ask him to do this much on offense without a primary scorer to help him.

 

[LoPo]

How many games have we started in a hole? Rubio (30mpg) and Favors (23mpg) play twice as much as O'Neale(15) and Exum (17.5). AND, Exum and O'Neale play a ton of blowout minutes because our starters can't do their job.

So yes, I'm not going to blame those guys for our losing. Have they underachieved? Yes, but we don't lose because them.

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

so what is your suggestion coach catchass?

look at these fools, any other coach would have quit by now by being supplied this piss *** roster.

The roster needs to be fixed. Favors isn't a PF anymore. The game has changed on him. Crowder isn't consistent enough to be relied upon as a starter. Given that Gobert is our most unique and valuable player, you have to build the roster around him, including his strengths and weaknesses.

 

[yamers]

I really don't think anyone foresaw Exum and O'Neale being this impotent on offense. I think we all expected some modicum of improvement on their ends, especially in the shooting department.

I'm not say they are 100% to blame, but those two are the main factors of our offense "looking ugly". When we have Crowder and Rubio in, it looks better, but it's not like they are performing well. Crowder has regressed back to post-trade Crowder where he plays hard and does the rights things, but can't get shots to fall to save his life.

I think Rubio is starting to turn a corner this year, but we can't ask him to do this much on offense without a primary scorer to help him.

rubio isn't turning any corners except the corner directly into the Chinese basketball League.

 

[yamers]

The roster needs to be fixed. Favors isn't a PF anymore. The game has changed on him. Crowder isn't consistent enough to be relied upon as a starter. Given that Gobert is our most unique and valuable player, you have to build the roster around him, including his strengths and weaknesses.

so DL goes and gets 2 PGs that can't shoot to cram the paint some more.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The worst part of the whole game was Holiday coming in and looking like prime Derrick rose and Grayson looking like... well himself... I didn’t expect us to play well tonight. When Favs and Royce were announced as starters I kind of knew it was going to be ugly AF.

 

[Witty Username]

but we've still lost a lot of shooting and shot creation. Even Shelvin Mack could be counted on to come in and make a few layups.

It always seem cyclical with this team. We have an OK year, and then we would bring in a 'Steve Novak' or something of that nature and it never pans out. In this case, we did the opposite and it has looked worse off.

I actually see the team doing something irritating like bringing up GLeaguers to start throwing it at the wall to see what sticks.

I don't see a lot of value in any of our guys that are touchable, like AB or Favors. I don't think Rubio had value since every team so far has a PG that's burned him.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

so DL goes and gets 2 PGs that can't shoot to cram the paint some more.

He canceled it out by getting one that can shoot but gets lit the eff up when he’s in the game.