2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[Douchebag K]

This is all BS. Just bring in Kevin Love and let’s be done with all this posturing ...

 

[David Ginola 14]

Bring here Lowry..

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Doesn't matter. Mitchell is selling tons of merchandise and season ticket holders are being hit with a huge price increase. As long as the general public continues to support a treadmill team, the FO has little incentive to take risks.

Dennis first priority is to ensure he has a job until retirement. The board's role is to maximize profits. Both are doing a helluva job at that.

Already a "treadmill team"?! LOL, just a year-and-a-half ago we were coming off a 4-year playoffs exile, but I guess that doesn't fit your narrative.

 

[Scat]

According to The Athletic’s Tony Jones, the Jazz’s “final” offer for Conley includes expiring contracts, presumably those of Ricky Rubio and Derrick Favors, a first-round pick and a second-round pick. Jones also reports that the Grizz inquired on Dante Exum, but were rebuffed by Jazz GM Dennis Lindsey.

 

[NAOS]

The supposed noise from the Conley Camp is ********. And this rumored deal is ********.

Could end up being the worst deadline evar.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Yeah, people just need to be patient. Lowry or Conley take us out of 2019 FA altogether. Neither is a good long-term solution. Nor is Ricky. Jazz FO should stand pat now that they missed out on T Harris.

Confused why anyone thinks Tobias staying in Philly is a done-deal. I'm not even sure they offer him the full-max (or that they should, considering he's clearly the 4th option on that team).

 

[infection]

I think the key to these trade threads, for next year at least, is to make as many predictions as possible and then I can PGAB all of you.

 

[gregbroncs]

Ya, they'd have to. Imagine the disaster if Conley declined and Mirotic signs elsewhere next season. Risky move. But high reward if it works out.

How is that a disaster? Mirotic is not as good as Conley.

 

[Jack Strop]

Yeah, people just need to be patient. Lowry or Conley take us out of 2019 FA altogether. Neither is a good long-term solution. Nor is Ricky. Jazz FO should stand pat now that they missed out on T Harris.

So who do you think we get in free agency? The studs and even 2nd tier guys likely re-sign with their teams. Or if not, we're not getting Durrant, Kyrie, etc.

Lowry is a lateral move, IMO, vs. Rubio, except he allows Utah to kick the can down the road another year. Jazz obviously want to move on from Bricky but would still have a tradeable asset in place (Lowry's contract) for next season. If Exum is ready, great. If not can still target a player via trade or in 2020 free agency. Or both.

 

[infection]

 

[David Stern]

Of course they are... Also, **** you Bartelstein.

 

[Alfalfa]

How is that a disaster? Mirotic is not as good as Conley.

I meant, imagine if the Jazz gave up Rubio, Favors, and 2 first round picks, only to have Conley start to physically decline due to age, and Mirotic deciding to sign elsewhere.

I think there is a real possibility the Jazz does this if Memphis accepts the Jazz' offer.

 

[NUMBERICA]

How is that a disaster? Mirotic is not as good as Conley.

Because the Jazz would just lose one 1st for renting Mirotic.

 

[enchilada_style]

I don’t think Conley’s preference to play in the east is a deal breaker.


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[Avery]

This is all BS. Just bring in Kevin Love and let’s be done with all this posturing ...

I WOULD NOT SAY SUCH THINGS IF I WERE YOU

 

[SCS]

Confused why anyone thinks Tobias staying in Philly is a done-deal. I'm not even sure they offer him the full-max (or that they should, considering he's clearly the 4th option on that team).

He's staying. Immediately after the trade Philly said that they plan on keeping Harris and Butler longterm. They are all in on a core of Embiid/Simmons/Butler/Harris.

We aren't getting Harris

 

[gregbroncs]

Because the Jazz would just lose one 1st for renting Mirotic.

Ah I see. That would be a disaster. That is why I'm not sold on a 1st for him. Just get him this off season if he wants to be here. He's not a max player so he could be had then. I have no interest in giving up assets for him.

 

[Jingled]

I've been firmly in the get Conley camp but I feel the opposite about Lowry. He's 32 years old and has been banged up this season. His play seems to be declining as well.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

This is why tanking should be very attractive for small market teams. Both free agency and trade options are a joke! Why would we give up value for player who doesn't want to be here(when they are tied to long-term contract)? Why would we give competitive offers for players that are likely to be gone once their contract is up(for short term contract)?

This is one of the biggest competitive disadvantages in the league for small market teams. There are 3 ways to attract premier talent in the league - draft, free agency and trades. Two of them are rendered obsolete or losing for small market teams. Practically the only way you can rely on is the draft...

The draft only gives the team control of the player for 7 years, at which point they're in their prime and ready to go to a big market on the coast.

 

[The mailman]

Lowry is definitely a lateral move - like most of all players discussed here. Any player that’s not a star is a lateral move. They may make us somewhat better, but they won’t put us over the top.