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Grayson Allen 2nd Season

If allen can hit 3’s at a respectable rate, of perhaps 40%, i’m more than happy with him being a benchie who comes in for 5-10 mins per game and throws a few shots up.
Our D can make up for his lack of this if he can hit 3’s at a decent rate.
Otherwise , he’s of little use to anyone...
Mitchell unfortunately won’t get to 40% with the number of attempts he takes per game as I just don’t think he’s a very good 3 point shooter so let’s have him concentrate on another role and the Ingles’s of the world, our new PG (hopefully) or stretch 4 can take outside shots and Mitch can do his thing and perhaps, so can Allen


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Based off of his late season success, I wonder if Grayson would have more value for Charlotte. Being a Duke product, maybe Charlotte looks for a buy cheap option to add much needed affordable offense.

There are numerous 2 and 3 team trade scenarios with Charlotte which could make sense for us.



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Personally, skill wise I liked what I saw from him all year. To mme every player progresses at their own speed, young older it doesn’t matter. For me he struggled with the speed of the game, his defense was evidence of that
 
Sandman822 said:
Allen was pretty bad at both but he did at least show progress with the on ball defensive stuff from what I saw. I think he's always going to have some size limitations on him too with the on ball stuff, he's one of the smallest 6'3/6'4 dudes that I can remember watching in the last 10 years or so. Like he's taller than Donovan Mitchell but Mitchell just looks way bigger on screen than Allen does.
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Not sure I understand what you mean by this. He has really good hops. Did you see some of the blocks he had at the rim this year?
 
I'm surprised at the level of pessimism. He was horrific in stretches, but he easily passed the eye test on offense in much longer stretches, beginning in summer league. I think the injury was very detrimental to how he played and its causing an overreaction.

Defensively he wasn't good, but he was also a rookie. He is intense and athletic though, and he wants to play so he'll work on it. I see him as a sixth man on a good team and a starter on many teams. He's going to, long term, well pay back his draft position.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Not sure I understand what you mean by this. He has really good hops. Did you see some of the blocks he had at the rim this year?
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He's got good vertical leap for sure but he seems smaller than a 6'3/6'4 dude is my point. Like DWade is the same height and he's much bigger and stronger, Mitchell is shorter but he looks much bigger and stronger, even Rubio looked bigger than him and it's not like Rubio is a strong athlete either. Plus he is likely a below average guard when it comes to lateral speed - he just looks undersized despite being 6'3/6'4.

Maybe he hits the gym over the next few years and he looks better but Allen just seems smaller than he actually is when watching games.
 
JazzFever said:
I'm surprised at the level of pessimism. He was horrific in stretches, but he easily passed the eye test on offense in much longer stretches, beginning in summer league. I think the injury was very detrimental to how he played and its causing an overreaction.

Defensively he wasn't good, but he was also a rookie. He is intense and athletic though, and he wants to play so he'll work on it. I see him as a sixth man on a good team and a starter on many teams. He's going to, long term, well pay back his draft position.
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Wow, 6th man and starter on many teams? Is that Grayson’s mum?
 
His age tempers my expectations. We aren't in any position to be trading away athletic players with a good three point shot though, lets see what happens.
 
i don't get the age argument. People sound like he is a 30 year old man. Some players come into the league at 19 or 20 and never improve. If a guy works hard he can improve unless his physical body starts to decline. I understand that hard work doesn't always overcome a lack of talent but improvements can still be made. I am not talking about the guy becoming an all-star but he certainly can become a rotational contributor.

I think it was after the Sacramento game when DM gave a comment about this just being the beginning for Allen. I am interested to see Allen this coming year, I will give him until his rookie contract is done before I change my opinion.
 
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