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You mean Torry Ellis?I knew I recognized the name Perry Ellis, so I googled it. Then I remembered why I knew it.
You mean Torry Ellis?I knew I recognized the name Perry Ellis, so I googled it. Then I remembered why I knew it.
So you want him to lose out on a year of earnings? He isnt that good. He would have likely been in the same position if he stayed. Maybe he gets better and would become a first round pick, but maybe he doesnt.**** you talking bout? i'm not hating at all, he could've had a big sophomore and/or junior season and actually been drafted and making real nba money rather than bouncing around. if google is correct, between his 2 way contract with memphis and then being waived by cleveland, he's made maybe $300k? that's ok money, but not much after taxes and definitely not life-changing longterm. he also bought his mom a range rover on that salary for some dumb reason and is making alot less than he would've made as a likely first round pick after another season or 2 in college.
So you want him to lose out on a year of earnings? He isnt that good. He would have likely been in the same position if he stayed. Maybe he gets better and would become a first round pick, but maybe he doesnt.
He's a young athletic PG without a ton of skill. He was smart to get out early as possible and start earning.
And 300K in a year puts you in what, the top 5% of yearly earnings in America? That's life changing for a lot of people.
It's a cultural thing. Like, if someone stays in school, they're guaranteed a better career, rather than a worthless degree and a lot of wasted opportunity.The stay in school crowd always puzzles me...
So you want him to lose out on a year of earnings? He isnt that good. He would have likely been in the same position if he stayed. Maybe he gets better and would become a first round pick, but maybe he doesnt.
He's a young athletic PG without a ton of skill. He was smart to get out early as possible and start earning.
And 300K in a year puts you in what, the top 5% of yearly earnings in America? That's life changing for a lot of people.
Plus dudes can make great money overseas. If he lands an NBA minimum deal this year that’s a **** ton of money. The stay in school crowd always puzzles me...
It's a cultural thing. Like, if someone stays in school, they're guaranteed a better career, rather than a worthless degree and a lot of wasted opportunity.
delayed gratification/bigger picture dude. he would've definitely been drafted with a better year and more usage at arizona.
While it's difficult to verify experimentally, the mere fact of getting older also hurts his draft profile.
i just gave plenty of examples of "older" or non-freshmen guys getting drafted recently and there's alot more if I included 2nd round guys.
Sure, there are exceptions to the trend. Doesn't change what I said at all.
i don't think that trend is very legit it all, it's just that we've been conditioned in this 1 and done age to think that a player 21 or older can't improve or is somehow less valuable than a 19-20 y/o.
You mean Torry Ellis?
It's not about us, it's about the drafting tendencies of NBA GMs. Older players get lower draft spots for similar production. Staying in school worsens your position if you don't improve considerably.
James Michael McAdoo went from a lottery selection to undrafted by staying in school. He did get a ring from the Ws though.
What evidence says he would have? He's been a pro for 2 years and not developed greatly. Why is Arizona going to make him a first rounder? You are just guessing and it's a bad guess. He took the smart routedelayed gratification/bigger picture dude. he would've definitely been drafted with a better year and more usage at arizona. he's in a field that he can't work in until he's 65 like most regular jobs. was stupid of him to come out early, pure and simple. that 300k (and i don't think it's even that much) is over 2 years (and pre-tax) and he doesn't have anything guaranteed beyond that. post-tax he maybe got 200 of that; it's temporarily life changing but i doubt he has saved or invested much of that given that he bought his mom a rover as I noted. shortsighted as f*ck.
What evidence says he would have? He's been a pro for 2 years and not developed greatly. Why is Arizona going to make him a first rounder? You are just guessing and it's a bad guess. He took the smart route
Plenty of players improve and dont get drafted higher.inexact science basically. i don't have evidence that he would've been better than he is now, but another year to at least potentially look better and improve his draft position is what i'm harping on.