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Catchall said:
A British-based investigation of Burisma's owner was closed down in early 2015 on a technicality when a deadline for documents was not met.
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John Solomon has no credibility. It's amazing how often you keep going back to that well.

Far from being a technicality, Shokin was stonewalling the UKs request for documents, this wasn't just an accidental missed deadline, he was running interference on Burisma's behalf.
 
Zombie said:
John Solomon has no credibility. It's amazing how often you keep going back to that well.

Far from being a technicality, Shokin was stonewalling the UKs request for documents, this wasn't just an accidental missed deadline, he was running interference on Burisma's behalf.
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The story here is that there were still two other active investigations into Burisma when Biden blackmailed Ukraine's government to fire the prosecutor. This contradicts the story that Biden and the liberals have been saying.

As for John Solomon, he is an award-winning journalist, and he's reporting based on evidence from multiple sources in Ukraine and the U.S. He's not a pundit. His reporting was also referenced by NY Times and ABC News.

Your credibility on the other hand...
 
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Catchall said:
The story here is that there were still two other active investigations into Burisma when Biden blackmailed Ukraine's government to fire the prosecutor. This contradicts the story that Biden and the liberals have been saying.

As for John Solomon, he is an award-winning journalist, and he's reporting based on evidence from multiple sources in Ukraine and the U.S. He's not a pundit. His reporting was also referenced by NY Times and ABC News.
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It really doesn't. If you've read any of the in depth articles laying out the facts of this it's made abundantly clear there was a UK investigation into Burisma, that Shokin was going out of his way not to cooperate with.

The issue was never that there were no investigations into Burisma, but that the Ukrainian prosecutors weren't actively working on them, or assisting on those being done by other governments law enforcement agencies.

John Solomon is spinning a yarn here trying to recast old facts as new information to argue a point no one is making.
 
Catchall said:
The story here is that there were still two other active investigations into Burisma when Biden blackmailed Ukraine's government to fire the prosecutor. This contradicts the story that Biden and the liberals have been saying.

As for John Solomon, he is an award-winning journalist, and he's reporting based on evidence from multiple sources in Ukraine and the U.S. He's not a pundit. His reporting was also referenced by NY Times and ABC News.

Your credibility on the other hand...
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Biden being guilty does not equal Trump is innocent...

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Zombie said:
I think they know this deep down, but when you can't defend the indefensible the only remaining strategy is to change the subject.
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The the prosecutor who was fired and Burisma's U.S. legal team seem to contradict the popular story in the press. In any case, the DOJ is investigating Ukraine and President Trump has every reason to raise the issue with Ukraine, as he did with UK, Australia and Italy.

You ought to actually read Solomon's article rather than dismiss him as a shill.

Zombie said:
BTW @Catchall, you never answered my question about that Federalist article you shared.
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What was your question about the Federalist article? That was the one saying that the requirements for matters of "urgent concern" were changed right before the whistleblower complaint was filed, removing the requirement for first-hand knowledge.
 
What was your question about the Federalist article? That was the one saying that the requirements for matters of "urgent concern" were changed right before the whistleblower complaint was filed, removing the requirement for first-hand knowledge.
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Lol

 
Catchall said:
The the prosecutor who was fired and Burisma's U.S. legal team seem to contradict the popular story in the press
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I feel like we had this discussion already when you posted this article previously.

Suffice to say John Solomon has a long history of presenting facts sans relevant context to fit a preconceived narrative. He did this previously with Hillary and Uranium One, and it appears he's doing the same with this story.

Catchall said:
What was your question about the Federalist article? That was the one saying that the requirements for matters of "urgent concern" were changed right before the whistleblower complaint was filed, removing the requirement for first-hand knowledge.
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Yes, that has been shown to be a lie. I was wondering if that would color your perception of them as a news outlet going forward.
 
Red said:
Beautiful....

Conned: Road to Trump impeachment may have begun with Giuliani getting played by Ukrainian prosecutor:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...uliani-getting-played-by-ukrainian-prosecutor

"President Trump faces impeachment because personal attorney Rudy Giuliani was manipulated by a disreputable official who hoped to avoid being fired by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to regional analysts and anti-corruption activists.

“Consider the notion that Rudy Giuliani, who is no fool, was conned,” a U.S.-based Central European policy specialist who is active in Ukrainian issues told the Washington Examiner.

A consensus has been forming for months, in both Ukraine and in the U.S. government, that Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuri Lutsenko, who earned the distrust of local anti-corruption activists during his three years in office, lured President Trump's personal lawyer into a rash pursuit of dirt on Democrats that could ultimately bring the American president down.

Lutsenko, 54, convinced Giuliani that he had evidence of corruption involving former Vice President Joe Biden. But his back channel meetings are widely perceived as an attempt to forge the kind of political alliance with Trump that would make it difficult for Zelensky to oust him....

....“The president has done things ... based on his obvious presumption that there is something to be found about Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton in Ukraine,” said the Central European specialist. “What if there's no there there? It means, then, that Giuliani may have drawn Trump into a situation which is, politically, extraordinarily damaging — for no purpose.”
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I'm beginning to think there are CIA assets in the Ukrainian Government that set up Giuliani to go and deliver bad info to Trump knowing full well he would turn around and do something idiotic like this.
 
candrew said:
I'm beginning to think there are CIA assets in the Ukrainian Government that set up Giuliani to go and deliver bad info to Trump knowing full well he would turn around and do something idiotic like this.
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There is so much stink on this not to question if it's inside. My pet theory is Trump set the whole thing in motion to spotlight Biden. The fools around here are proof enough that it plays right into the swing voters he's going for. Will it hurt him more or help him by exposing more media and left wing fanaticism?
 
Zombie said:
Not particularly, no.

It's too ****ing ridiculous to be made up.
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Does this strike you as ridiculous?

Chuck Schumer threatens Trump right on TV.



Then the CIA spies on Tru errrrr.... gossipblows Trump.

The real corruption right out in front, and all the MSM has to do is frame it however they want, and then the shills do the rest.


You are right this **** is too ridiculous.
 
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