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NAOS said:
Ha. My wife is super good natured. I’m lucky she’s attracted to brooding souls. But she is pulling me into lighter and lighter moods as the months pass.
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This pleases me

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Wes Mantooth said:
Maybe give it a break, eh?
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I asked him why he closed a thread because I was genuinely confused about why he did it.

He came back at me with "get over yourself."

I was like, I'm actually just curious why?

He was like, I'm done with this along with several personal digs along the way.

So give what a break? Wondering why he picked that thread to close. I still don't really understand. And I get that he doesn't have to justify that as he puts it, this site has "hands off moderation" until they arbitrarily decide to be hands on. It isn't really arbitrary, if you bother Jason he'll try to do something so that he doesn't have to be bothered by it. That's the core of how he manages this site.

So thanks for the advice, but maybe you should give it a break with giving me advice?
 
NAOS said:
@Gameface,

You’re sort of breaking hearts around here, man, because you’ve appeared to be struggling with one thing or another for quite a while.

How can we help you turn a page?
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As I've said, and it's true so believe it or not, I'm doing fine. My life is going fine. I'm good with the page I'm on. I don't need to make you good with. I don't have any interest in doing so.
 
NAOS said:
My @Gameface hypothesis:

There are several deleterious effects from nightshift work. These often start with changes that result from insulin insensitivity, which are created by breaking diurnal rhythms.

Before you know it, your wife is driving a Mini Clubman and things are crazay af.
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I maintain the same sleep schedule more or less between my days off and days at work. Maintaining my circadian rhythm is important to me.

That said, on my days off I'm up at 3, 4, 5, 6am, have had a few drinks and have very little productive **** to do while I sit alone with my thoughts. I'm not proud of posting some of the **** on jazzfanz that I have. But I'm also not posting rambling incoherent nonsense. Overly aggressive, confrontational, sometimes mean and **** I should probably either not say or say differently? Sure.
 
Harambe said:
I'm sorry I missed that.
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You missed it because that's not even what happened.

When Jason was summoned he looked around, saw that I had posted in that thread recently, figured that would be the quickest path to "being done with this" and locked it.

There was nothing special about the "pissing match" in that thread. I'd rate it a 4/10 as compared to the daily pissing matches that go unchecked.

Moral of the story is don't make Jason have to actively participate in jazzfanz because he really doesn't want to.
 
Gameface said:
I maintain the same sleep schedule more or less between my days off and days at work. Maintaining my circadian rhythm is important to me.

That said, on my days off I'm up at 3, 4, 5, 6am, have had a few drinks and have very little productive **** to do while I sit alone with my thoughts. I'm not proud of posting some of the **** on jazzfanz that I have. But I'm also not posting rambling incoherent nonsense. Overly aggressive, confrontational, sometimes mean and **** I should probably either not say or say differently? Sure.
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If you’re awake at 3 or 4AM on a regular basis, then your circadian rhythm isn’t being tended to. And if you’re doing what 90-99% of Americans are doing before bed (eating, drinking alcohol, bathing themselves in the blue light of their devices, etc.), then that is putting your sleep under further strain.

But I agree with you on one thing: how you use this site and how you come across to other people on this site provides very little to zero insights into how you’re ACTUALLY doing.

That said, it may have provide some insights. And you may not be aware of the signs that do leap through. For example, your behavior is consistent with someone with high cortisol levels... and that is consistent with ****ed sleep and diurnal rhythms....
 
NAOS said:
If you’re awake at 3 or 4AM on a regular basis, then your circadian rhythm isn’t being tended to. And if you’re doing what 90-99% of Americans are doing before bed (eating, drinking alcohol, bathing themselves in the blue light of their devices, etc.), then that is putting your sleep under further strain.

But I agree with you on one thing: how you use this site and how you come across to other people on this site provides very little to zero insights into how you’re ACTUALLY doing.

That said, it may have provide some insights. And you may not be aware of the signs that do leap through. For example, your behavior is consistent with someone with high cortisol levels... and that is consistent with ****ed sleep and diurnal rhythms....
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My work schedule is 6pm to 6:30am. I eat, sleep, poop, shower, etc. at consistent times workdays or off days. Maybe I'm not understanding circadian rhythms correctly, but keeping those things consistent is part of what I understand it to be. I have done what 99% of the people I've worked with on nights do and completely flip their schedule to a day schedule on their days off. Usually by staying up for more than 24hrs on their first day off and then going to bed 10-11pm. Some of them get home at around 7am, get in bed by 8am then wake up at 10-12 instead of just staying up.

I tried that. Trust me, if you think you've seen crazy, you haven't. I was on the verge of getting a divorce. By staying on the same sleep schedule I'm a much more agreeable person.

And it doesn't help that I work a 2-2-3 schedule. (Week 1 work Monday, Tuesday. Off Wednesday, Thursday. Work Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Week 2 off Monday, Tuesday. Work Wednesday, Thursday. Off Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Rinse repeat.) That schedule blows, hard.
 
Gameface said:
My work schedule is 6pm to 6:30am. I eat, sleep, poop, shower, etc. at consistent times workdays or off days. Maybe I'm not understanding circadian rhythms correctly, but keeping those things consistent is part of what I understand it to be. I have done what 99% of the people I've worked with on nights do and completely flip their schedule to a day schedule on their days off. Usually by staying up for more than 24hrs on their first day off and then going to bed 10-11pm. Some of them get home at around 7am, get in bed by 8am then wake up at 10-12 instead of just staying up.

I tried that. Trust me, if you think you've seen crazy, you haven't. I was on the verge of getting a divorce. By staying on the same sleep schedule I'm a much more agreeable person.

And it doesn't help that I work a 2-2-3 schedule. (Week 1 work Monday, Tuesday. Off Wednesday, Thursday. Work Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Week 2 off Monday, Tuesday. Work Wednesday, Thursday. Off Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Rinse repeat.) That schedule blows, hard.
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There are serious and unavoidable long-term consequences of becoming nocturnal. There are a lot of studies out there. Humans are a diurnal species. Our circadian rhythms are based on diurnal attributes.

You’ve gone down a different path. That “choice” has a bundle of consequences, ranging from metabolic to psychologic.
 
NAOS said:
There are serious and unavoidable long-term consequences of becoming nocturnal. There are a lot of studies out there. Humans are a diurnal species. Our circadian rhythms are based on diurnal attributes.

You’ve gone down a different path. That “choice” has a bundle of consequences, ranging from metabolic to psychologic.
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Oh I know that there are consequences.

Maybe you didn't really keep up on my journey, but I used to work swings, from 2pm to 10:30pm, M-F. When I found out they were going to go back to 12hr shifts I quit and went somewhere else to avoid going to nights. I stayed at the other job for 6 months, wasn't working out, I asked to come back. Since then I've been on nights and it has been hard and I know it isn't good for me.

I worry about going somewhere else right now because I don't want to look like I'm bouncing from job to job. But after I've been here a year since coming back I'm going to start looking.
 
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