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Jazz player +/- on the season

Bogey +71
Royce +54
Rudy +46
Mike +36 (yeah despite struggling with his shot still a +)
Donovan +14
Mudiay +4
Brantley +1 (small sample)
Kidd -1 (small sample)
Morgan -1 (small sample)
Oni -3 (small sample)
NWG -7 (small sample)
Exum -17
Bradley -19
Davis -27
Ingles -37 (skewed by playing by second unit as lineup +/- suggests)
Niang -53
Green -82

Green and Niang play 29.8 minutes per game btw :(
 
SCS said:
Jazz player +/- on the season

Bogey +71
Royce +54
Rudy +46
Mike +36 (yeah despite struggling with his shot still a +)
Donovan +14
Mudiay +4
Brantley +1 (small sample)
Kidd -1 (small sample)
Morgan -1 (small sample)
Oni -3 (small sample)
NWG -7 (small sample)
Exum -17
Bradley -19
Davis -27
Ingles -37 (skewed by playing by second unit as lineup +/- suggests)
Niang -53
Green -82

Green and Niang play 29.8 minutes per game btw :(
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Killer posts. This brings home how desperately the Jazz need to acquire more legitimate rotation players.
 
SCS said:
A big issue with our bench is that we have so many guys who only really provide one positive skill.

Niang is only a shooter
Green is only really a shooter
Davis rebounding/defense
Mudiay, scoring
Exum, defense

We need more versatility from the bench unit
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Agreed with the exception of green. He seems pretty good at posting up smaller dudes and at finishing at the rim, especially in transition

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Get Bertans. A 6’10 standard sized PF who also happens to be the league's most deadly catch and shoot assassin.

Him pairing with Bojan will space the floor like crazy. He is also an one year expiring with Wizards unlikely to spend the big bucks to keep him.
 
Is there a player out there that constantly moves well without the basketball that is possible for us to get? I feel like that would help a ton. We need to kill this tendency we have where guys just stand around on offense. Quin doesn't seem to get mad enough about it. So adding a player who can be an example to the others might be the only way.
 
SCS said:
Is there a player out there that constantly moves well without the basketball that is possible for us to get? I feel like that would help a ton. We need to kill this tendency we have where guys just stand around on offense. Quin doesn't seem to get mad enough about it. So adding a player who can be an example to the others might be the only way.
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You're talking about guys like Korver, Klay Thompson and JJ Redick....maybe Buddy Hield fits that description.
 
I'm not a big Mudiay fan. I think he's erratic. Maybe that's what makes him unique, but he seems almost impossible for guys to play with. He doesn't play in pick-and-roll, he's still reluctant to shoot 3s--he's basically a drive and kick player who isn't terribly difficult for teams to defend.
 
SCS said:
Is there a player out there that constantly moves well without the basketball that is possible for us to get? I feel like that would help a ton. We need to kill this tendency we have where guys just stand around on offense. Quin doesn't seem to get mad enough about it. So adding a player who can be an example to the others might be the only way.
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we need a PF and we need an off-ball shooter, and here's the guy:



imagine having him matching up with someone like AD. AD will kill him offensively but he will equally make AD work on the other end.
 
jom2003 said:
we need a PF and we need an off-ball shooter, and here's the guy:



imagine having him matching up with someone like AD. AD will kill him offensively but he will equally make AD work on the other end.
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Why would they trade him though? And why would they trade him for anything we could offer?
 
Catchall said:
I'm not a big Mudiay fan. I think he's erratic. Maybe that's what makes him unique, but he seems almost impossible for guys to play with. He doesn't play in pick-and-roll, he's still reluctant to shoot 3s--he's basically a drive and kick player who isn't terribly difficult for teams to defend.
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All good dude. Quin was starting the showcasing of him today for a trade in a couple weeks
 
jom2003 said:
Get Bertans. A 6’10 standard sized PF who also happens to be the league's most deadly catch and shoot assassin.

Him pairing with Bojan will space the floor like crazy. He is also an one year expiring with Wizards unlikely to spend the big bucks to keep him.
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Excellent suggestion dude.
 
Catchall said:
He'll be expiring at the same time as Conley and Gobert, giving us some roster flexibility for 2021/22. Plus, the Jazz really like him.
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He was already signed through next season and we gave him a one year extension, so his contract now doesn't expire until after the 2021-22 season, which will be a year after Conley and Gobert's expire.
 
Hornets receive: Dante Exum and Georges Niang

Jazz receive: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

The Hornets do it because they're going to let MKG walk in free agency this coming summer anyway. He's not in their current rotation because Borrega has opted to go with younger players, guys they've acquired since his arrival (his guys). They basically get a free two year trial to see if they can make something of Exum. Exum's contract doesn't bother them because they are capped out anyway and it expires the same time as their other massive contracts.

Jazz do it because MKG is an upgrade in Niangs minutes. MKG has been a very good plus/minus player most of his career and over most of that time he was a starter playing against other starters. For the Jazz he would be a bench player. He would give the Jazz a much needed boost athletically. He would give the Jazz another good wing defender. He finishes at the rim. He rebounds well for his size. He's active enough to get steals and blocks. He can't shoot anywhere near the level of Niang. That's the one drawback. But the Jazz as a team are #4 in 3 point percentage. They have enough shooting.

Just an idea. One I'm sure some would hate. But it looks like Mudiay has usurped Exum in the rotation. And it seems pointless to have Exum's salary sitting on the pine when our bench unit needs help. It's also hard to find a realistic trade involving Exum. So.
 
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LoPo said:
I have been really, really high on the idea of Ntilikina for a while. He is a solid player in a bad situation. He still has potential and maybe he can unify this team due to his connection with Rudy and Donovan.

Exum and Green
for
Ntilikina and Gibson

NY saves money this year and pick up a player they hopefully have interest in (Exum). We get two useful players. Gibson provides much needed frontcourt depth. If we also have to send them Mudiay, then so be it.

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I’d rather Dante and Davis for frank and portis


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SCS said:
Hornets receive: Dante Exum and Georges Niang

Jazz receive: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

The Hornets do it because they're going to let MKG walk in free agency this coming summer anyway. He's not in their current rotation because Borrega has opted to go with younger players, guys they've acquired since his arrival (his guys). They basically get a free two year trial to see if they can make something of Exum. Exum's contract doesn't bother them because they are capped out anyway and it expires the same time as their other massive contracts.

Jazz do it because MKG is an upgrade in Niangs minutes. MKG has been a very good plus/minus player most of his career and over most of that time he was a starter playing against other starters. For the Jazz he would be a bench player. He would give the Jazz a much needed boost athletically. He would give the Jazz another good wing defender. He finishes at the rim. He rebounds well for his size. He's active enough to get steals and rebounds. He can't shoot anywhere near the level of Niang. That's the one drawback. But the Jazz as a team are #4 in 3 point percentage. They have enough shooting.

Just an idea. One I'm sure some would hate. But it looks like Mudiay has usurped Exum in the rotation. And it seems pointless to have Exum's salary sitting on the pine when our bench unit needs help. It's also hard to find a realistic trade involving Exum. So.
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MKG was riding the bench on my fantasy team a few years back other than that I know nothing about MKG. He sounds nice when summed up in a few sentences.
 
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