Conley could miss multiple weeks with hamstring injury

[LifeOnaPlate]

My #1 concern with Conley, going back to last season's trade deadline, was his health. This is such deflating news. The team is better with Mike on the floor, and his shot is going to start falling. But now we'll have lost him for more than a month, and possibly longer.

Honestly, I would love to see Snyder try this: plug Exum into Conley's starting role and keep the other rotations largely the same.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

My #1 concern with Conley, going back to last season's trade deadline, was his health. This is such deflating news. The team is better with Mike on the floor, and his shot is going to start falling. But now we'll have lost him for more than a month, and possibly longer.

Honestly, I would love to see Snyder try this: plug Exum into Conley's starting role and keep the other rotations largely the same.

Even if it worked for a game or two just because it caught people off guard we could start a narrative that Dante is good and up his trade value... one of the things that intrigued Memphis was Grayson's big game in the last game where he scored like 35 or something. NBA teams might buy it... who knows.

 

[jom2003]

And? That’s kind of the point isn’t it.

So your point is to compare Conley with Giannis, lebron, Curry or Harden because he gets paid the same as those guys? Is this the best you can do?

There is a reason I bring up Indiana and Toronto because structure wise we are more comparable to those teams in that we don't have a single player that could be put in the same conversation with Giannis, Lebron etc. So we need to build our team in terms chemistry and well-roundedness instead of pure talent/star power. So it hurts us having this one overpaid non-superstar taking up all the space/resources so it puts burden on our other starters to make up for the deficit and that is exactly the case with DM/Bojan/Rudy. If you think them combing for 70+points/25+rebs/110+ min every night even against the likes of Warriors Magic and Grizz should become the norm, then your point is made. Maybe one of them should go for MVP this season.

 

[oneye]

So your point is to compare Conley with Giannis, lebron, Curry or Harden because he gets paid the same as those guys? Is this the best you can do?

There is a reason I bring up Indiana and Toronto because structure wise we are more comparable to those teams in that we don't have a single player that could be put in the same conversation with Giannis, Lebron etc. So we need to build our team in terms chemistry and well-roundedness instead of pure talent/star power. So it hurts us having this one overpaid non-superstar taking up all the space/resources so it puts burden on our other starters to make up for the deficit and that is exactly the case with DM/Bojan/Rudy. If you think them combing for 70+points/25+rebs/110+ min every night even against the likes of Warriors Magic and Grizz should become the norm, then your point is made. Maybe one of them should go for MVP this season.

Cool, and everyone was perfectly fine with it a few months ago. The only reason you have that flexibility is because Donovan is underpaid. This is the new reality, and once he's getting $30+ mill, and Rudy is getting like $40+ mill a year, the bench is essentially not going to be very good. Mike was brought in because they had financial flexibility to do so. The last 2 years were the model you talked about in spending that money on role players, it didn't work either. Donovan or Rudy will have to MVP level to win a title. That's just how it is. To win a title you have to have a player playing at that caliber or you aren’t winning one.

 

[str8line]

The Phoenix!

He’s sort of build like a bird the gangly ****.

Bambi-rd

 

[MVP]

Dante will RISE UP, ya'll!

 

[homeytennis]

I think we get like 40-50 games out of Mike this season... so we will have the excuse that he never got acclimated (if we don't get out of the first round). Will provide additional ammo to not make moves this summer.

Side note... I bet DL makes the driest damn baked goods ever.

You mean the Kak wasn't moist?

 

[Keefe]

 

[homeytennis]

Give DWill a call. One call that's all.

 

[DasJazz]

Dante will RISE UP, ya'll!

Yep, and then he'll stretch, maybe yawn, and then sit his candy *** back down on the end of the bench where he belongs.

 

[Dali]

Man this sucks. Our combinations and line ups looked better with having Mike back. Then he can't return for the second half and the collective bench suckage returns.

Our point guards have taken beatings recently. Dante and his well documented injuries, Hill and his toe, the goat Neto that couldn't stay healthy, Mudiay and his sore hammies, I'm waiting with baited breath for his next sore one so he misses time, Mike and his hammy. I don't think Shelvin got injured too much, but whenever he would play defense, it was like watching somebody in quicksand.

I agree with the notion of playing Ex to see if he can find any rhythm.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Give DWill a call. One call that's all.

https://www.deseret.com/2019/8/16/2...sport-now-that-his-basketball-ship-has-sailed

Still living in Park City. 50/50 he can bring it better than RXum.

 

[jom2003]

Cool, and everyone was perfectly fine with it a few months ago. The only reason you have that flexibility is because Donovan is underpaid. This is the new reality, and once he's getting $30+ mill, and Rudy is getting like $40+ mill a year, the bench is essentially not going to be very good. Mike was brought in because they had financial flexibility to do so. The last 2 years were the model you talked about in spending that money on role players, it didn't work either. Donovan or Rudy will have to MVP level to win a title. That's just how it is. To win a title you have to have a player playing at that caliber or you aren’t winning one.

Having the financial flexibility is one thing, how you spend the money is another. You don't beat Harden, Giannis,Lebron by starpowers. We beat them by the numbers. Having a good number of players on your team who can contribute in big ways is the key. But instead of going for a number of useful players who can contribute to our team on reasonable contract(say, Sabonis' contract with the Pacers for example), we exhausted a huge chunk of our assets and cap "flexibility" on overpaying for just one or two players who simply cannot produce the same value in return. That is called a waste of assets/resources and poor management. It is the exact opposite of how we hope to build our team.

Now with the lack of depth in our team, all you can hope for is to compete with the likes of Lebron, AD, Kawhi, Giannis, Harden in starpowers with Conley, DM and Rudy. That is not even a gamble. That is called suicide.

Management work is to make the best use of the resources available to build the best team possible that has the best chance in achieving the best result. Not to sit and pray for some kind of impossible miracle because of your lack of judgement and effort.

 

[homeytennis]

The GLeague Showcase is this weekend with every GLeague team in attendance. I suspect the Jazz will have someone there.

 

[infection]

Give DWill a call. One call that's all.

DL already passed on that when DWill was playing good, got waived, and we needed a PG.

 

[oneye]

Having the financial flexibility is one thing, how you spend the money is another. You don't beat Harden, Giannis,Lebron by starpowers. We beat them by the numbers. Having a good number of players on your team who can contribute in big ways is the key. But instead of going for a number of useful players who can contribute to our team on reasonable contract(say, Sabonis' contract with the Pacers for example), we exhausted a huge chunk of our assets and cap "flexibility" on overpaying for just one or two players who simply cannot produce the same value in return. That is called a waste of assets/resources and poor management. It is the exact opposite of how we hope to build our team.

Now with the lack of depth in our team, all you can hope for is to compete with the likes of Lebron, AD, Kawhi, Giannis, Harden in starpowers with Conley, DM and Rudy. That is not even a gamble. That is called suicide.

Management work is to make the best use of the resources available to build the best team possible that has the best chance in achieving the best result. Not to sit and pray for some kind of impossible miracle because of your lack of judgement and effort.

Some of you are impossible. IF RUDY AND/OR DONOVAN ARE NOT MVP LEVEL PLAYERS YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE. You had exactly what you're talking about the past 2 seasons and you couldn't compete with that either. You tried with a bunch of good players in Ricky, Favs, Jae, and now went with a guy who has proven to be a very good player his whole career, had name recognition, and gave you something you needed. Just because it hasn't went smoothly doesn't mean it wasn't a good decision. THE LAST TWO SEASONS WERE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE PROFESSING HERE. IT DIDN'T WORK. Stars win you championships in this league. Yes you need a team, but how stars perform is how you're going to win a title. Donovan and Rudy are going to have to MVP level, and yes Mike is going to have to be better, especially at hitting his shots. But to act like a bunch of role players again were the better option, you tried that already, and you were all bitching because you wanted the 3rd guy. You don't get to have stars and cap space.

 

[homeytennis]

Some of you are impossible. IF RUDY AND/OR DONOVAN ARE NOT MVP LEVEL PLAYERS YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE. You had exactly what you're talking about the past 2 seasons and you couldn't compete with that either. You tried with a bunch of good players in Ricky, Favs, Jae, and now went with a guy who has proven to be a very good player his whole career, had name recognition, and gave you something you needed. Just because it hasn't went smoothly doesn't mean it wasn't a good decision. THE LAST TWO SEASONS WERE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE PROFESSING HERE. IT DIDN'T WORK.

But we were sooooo close.

 

[oneye]

But we were sooooo close.

The truth of the matter is if we want a championship Donovan is going to have to be in the same breath as the top 5 players in the NBA or you have no chance. Rudy is going to have to be a top 10 player, and Mike is going to have to get back to being himself. The Jazz's gamble was not a bad one, Conley has just under-performed so far and shot poorly. If we had Jae, Ricky, and Favs back we wouldn't have Mike or Bogey. Last years team wasn't beating them either. Stars win championships, the star we traded our bench for just has under-performed and is now injured. Things were even starting to come together you could see it last night, but it will wait again for a few more weeks unfortunately.

 

[mellow]

@oneye. Then go get the third guy. Not mike conley. He was never going to put you over the top so why gut the team to get him?

And if your success model includes a beating other teams by having a superior bench unit, you better not rely on Niang and Green.

And if your entire defense is structured around superior interior defense and rim protection don't use your mid level to sign Ed Davis to be your back up center.

 

[mellow]

The Bojan wouldn't come here without conley myth will never die.

Anyone find that link yet?