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Beer said:
When hes actually given more than 30 seconds to speak he can explain things pretty well. Take a listen.

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I don't have an hour, lets hear it... Enlighten me on how raising taxes isn't raising taxes, please. I'm not trying to be a jerk here.
 
YOu all here keep bringing up Sweeden

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JazzyFresh said:
I don't have an hour, lets hear it... Enlighten me on how raising taxes isn't raising taxes, please. I'm not trying to be a jerk here.
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Don't act like you're this all knowing policy expert for all the candidates if you aren't willing to actually learn about their policies outside of your infowars screenshots.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Let's see it then. You guys do understand what "raising taxes to anyone who makes $31,000" by Bernies own admission means right. That doesn't mean lower them, it means raise them... You guys think the trillions more a year is going to grow on trees?
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It's a tax on the $ you make over a certain amount. In your example it'd be the $2,000 from 29k to 31k (which is currently taxed at 12%). So it'd be a raise in taxes of $360 at your proposed 30% (I unfortunately haven't seen an actual # for this).

Sure, it could be done poorly, but in all the proposals I've seen from anyone moderately progressive it's a net benefit for a large majority of Americans.
 
And PS I'm not an expert by any means. My example was simple to put things into perspective it's not a awe inspiring know it all piece. It was to put the numbers in front of your face to give people an idea on how as much as you think things will change, they wont.

Now proceed to telling how stupid I am instead of have a rebuttal.
 
Eminence said:
It's a tax on the $ you make over a certain amount. In your example it'd be the $2,000 from 29k to 31k (which is currently taxed at 12%). So it'd be a raise in taxes of $360 at your proposed 30% (I unfortunately haven't seen an actual # for this).

Sure, it could be done poorly, but in all the proposals I've seen from anyone moderately progressive it's a net benefit for a large majority of Americans.
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If you don't mind how much did you pay percentage wise to taxes? Me, I paid 22% without state taxes. And no I don't make a ton of money.
 
JazzyFresh said:
If you don't mind how much did you pay percentage wise to taxes? Me, I paid 22% without state taxes.
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My wife and I file jointly in the 12% bracket. I still have to figure out the state tax (prior to this year I lived in a state without income tax).
 
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