Healthiest countries in the world.... USA ranks 35th

[JazzyFresh]

You say that as if the majority being ignorant is a good thing.

Very high horse of you all intelligent one. You're so much smarter than everyone lol.

 

[JazzyFresh]

It's always so amusing to hear the privileged vilify those who were less fortunate. How smug you are.

Not to mention, ignorant. You're already on the hook for the healthcare coverage impoverished, the unempolyable, the the undocumented immigrants, and the downright irresponsible. That's what Medicaid and the 330 programs cover.

The people without health insurance are the ones working 50+ hours at two different minimum wage jobs. Those are the people you are spitting upon and whom you don't think deserve any help.



The same society that allowed you to earn your living is the one that doesn't allow the working poor to be secure in their life.

Oh piss off with your all mighty ********. I respect you brow but this is ridiculous and flat out self righteous bull s...

 

[One Brow]

Very high horse of you all intelligent one. You're so much smarter than everyone lol.

You can be highly intelligent and ignorant. You can be marginally intelligent and educated. I'm calling on you to get educated.

 

[One Brow]

Oh piss off with your all mighty ********. I respect you brow but this is ridiculous and flat out self righteous bull s...

I spent over 7 years working for Southern Illinois Healthcare Foundation and Touchette Regional Hospital. As, respectively, a chain of FQHCs and a safety net hospital, our primary clientele were the impoverished, the undocumented, the homeless, etc. I would run reports on who had insurance and their reported income levels.

I will repeat this again, so hopefully you will engage with it rather than dismiss it. When you talk about whose health insurance you don't want to help cover, you should remember it:

You're already on the hook for the healthcare coverage impoverished, the unempolyable, the the undocumented immigrants, and the downright irresponsible. That's what Medicaid and the 330 programs cover.

The people without health insurance are the ones working 50+ hours at two different minimum wage jobs. Those are the people you are spitting upon and whom you don't think deserve any help.

 

[JazzyFresh]

I spent over 7 years working for Southern Illinois Healthcare Foundation and Touchette Regional Hospital. As, respectively, a chain of FQHCs and a safety net hospital, our primary clientele were the impoverished, the undocumented, the homeless, etc. I would run reports on who had insurance and their reported income levels.

I will repeat this again, so hopefully you will engage with it rather than dismiss it. When you talk about whose health insurance you don't want to help cover, you should remember it:

You're already on the hook for the healthcare coverage impoverished, the unempolyable, the the undocumented immigrants, and the downright irresponsible. That's what Medicaid and the 330 programs cover.

The people without health insurance are the ones working 50+ hours at two different minimum wage jobs. Those are the people you are spitting upon and whom you don't think deserve any help.

Lol 50 hours a week and can't afford insurance? Thars 100 hours a week. That's around $700 dollars a week at minimum wage and the can't put at least 1/7 of that weekly wage towards insurance?

With more jobs than people maybe they should find a better job. Minimum wage is for high school kids not adults.

 

[One Brow]

Lol 50 hours a week and can't afford insurance? Thars 100 hours a week. That's around $700 dollars a week at minimum wage and the can't put at least 1/7 of that weekly wage towards insurance?

Some people have kids. Some have parents that need care, or siblings. Some are trying to pay off college debt. I don't think your laughs provide much assistance.

 

[JazzyFresh]

I spent over 7 years working for Southern Illinois Healthcare Foundation and Touchette Regional Hospital. As, respectively, a chain of FQHCs and a safety net hospital, our primary clientele were the impoverished, the undocumented, the homeless, etc. I would run reports on who had insurance and their reported income levels.

I will repeat this again, so hopefully you will engage with it rather than dismiss it. When you talk about whose health insurance you don't want to help cover, you should remember it:

You're already on the hook for the healthcare coverage impoverished, the unempolyable, the the undocumented immigrants, and the downright irresponsible. That's what Medicaid and the 330 programs cover.

The people without health insurance are the ones working 50+ hours at two different minimum wage jobs. Those are the people you are spitting upon and whom you don't think deserve any help.

I started my current job at $10 an hour and could afford insurance. 4 years later I'm making a comfortable living and have upped new employees to $12. Not fantastic but they are getting along fine.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Some people have kids. Some have parents that need care, or siblings. Some are trying to pay off college debt. I don't think your laughs provide much assistance.

The great thing about America is you can do anything you put your mind to. No matter who or where you come from.

 

[Deleted member 365]

The great thing about America is you can do anything you put your mind to. No matter who or where you come from.

Don’t you work at a grocery store? Is that really what you want to do with your life? That’s what you’ve put your mind to?

 

[Deleted member 365]

Some people have kids. Some have parents that need care, or siblings. Some are trying to pay off college debt. I don't think your laughs provide much assistance.

Some have pre-existing conditions...

We seem to be talking about two separate issues here.

@JazzyFresh appears to want health care to be merit based. Where only those who can afford it can receive it. Those who can’t or decide against it, won’t receive it.

This makes horrible economic sense and only drives prices up higher.

@JazzyFresh Also argues against single payer systems for economic reasons. However, if the real concern is economics, then a government regulated single payer system is the best most efficient health care delivery system around. Everyone pays into the system, everyone receives care, and the government regulates prices.

So we need to decide first:

a. What do we value most? Is health care a commodity like cotton candy or plasma TVs? Or is it a right like education and law enforcement?
b. Do we want the most expensive and inefficient health care system in the world? Or do we value efficiency?

Only those who don’t understand health care systems think we can treat health care as a commodity and give it to those who deserve it and then bitch about costs.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Don’t you work at a grocery store? Is that really what you want to do with your life? That’s what you’ve put your mind to?

I work and manage retail(major hardware store) and I am 100% content with my life. I work my *** off and take pride in my job but my work doesn't define me.

If I wanted to change I have every opportunity to. America is a fantastic place and the possibilities are endless for anyone that wants to better themselves.

Sadly we have people who think it should all just be handed to them on a silver platter. A generation (mine to today's) of lazy entitled a holes.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I work and manage retail(major hardware store) and I am 100% content with my life. I work my *** off and take pride in my job but my work doesn't define me.

If I wanted to change I have every opportunity to. America is a fantastic place and the possibilities are endless for anyone that wants to better themselves.

Sadly we have people who think it should all just be handed to them on a silver platter. A generation (mine to today's) of lazy entitled a holes.

And yet I’m willing to bet that I make twice as much as you and between my wife and I, make 4-5 times as much as you. I feel like we work our asses off too. Why should my hard earned insurance premiums go to pay towards your health insurance (if we actually shared insurance plans)? Why should I pay for your social security? Don’t you aspire to be anything more than a worker at your current place of employment?

Making a career out of working at the local Lowe’s where you provide me with nails, paint, and fertilizer may seem as foolish to me as you think those working two part time jobs to make ends meet do to you.

It’s so easy to demean those who make less than you. So maybe try to empathize with others more?

* I have great respect for people who work in grocery stores, department stores, and restaurants. If that’s what they want to do with their life more power to them. I recognize how fortunate I’ve had it in my life yet also believe everyone should be entitled to health care. It’s the moral and economically correct decision. I wouldn’t think about withholding health care because I felt like they didn’t deserve it.