All things Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

[Saint Cy of JFC]

What is the body of work that demonstrates him our best perimeter defender? How come our best perimeter defender didn't log any meaningful playoff minutes when we sorely needed those skills?

I'm not saying he can't be. For all we know he could be. But from where is this notion arising?

He's got the best defensive tools. He played the best defense in the pre-season. The Jazz called him their best defender.

Why he didnt get minutes?

I guess because Quin didnt trust him because he hadn't played all year so he didnt want to throw him in as a rookie.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I was hoping to wake up to news of a waivers claim. Emphasis on hoping, not expecting. Not expecting at all. But it would be glorious.

I would say to curb your expectations. We have a lot of movement we that bench group and some guys we want to see, so while the right move might be to add to that stable I can see our front office and coaching staff thinking there are too many moving parts... if this was mid season I think it’d have a better chance but I think there would be more suitors too. He will be top of the list for whatever contender has an injury or realizes they are a player short... which I know, that’s why you get out in front of it.

It also might be with teams cutting costs that more good players are out of work because two way players are taking their job and second round guys were cheaper to sign as 12th or 13th men.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I would say to curb your expectations. We have a lot of movement we that bench group and some guys we want to see, so while the right move might be to add to that stable I can see our front office and coaching staff thinking there are too many moving parts... if this was mid season I think it’d have a better chance but I think there would be more suitors too. He will be top of the list for whatever contender has an injury or realizes they are a player short... which I know, that’s why you get out in front of it.

It also might be with teams cutting costs that more good players are out of work because two way players are taking their job and second round guys were cheaper to sign as 12th or 13th men.

Well said and probably spot on

 

[infection]

I would say to curb your expectations. We have a lot of movement we that bench group and some guys we want to see, so while the right move might be to add to that stable I can see our front office and coaching staff thinking there are too many moving parts... if this was mid season I think it’d have a better chance but I think there would be more suitors too. He will be top of the list for whatever contender has an injury or realizes they are a player short... which I know, that’s why you get out in front of it.

It also might be with teams cutting costs that more good players are out of work because two way players are taking their job and second round guys were cheaper to sign as 12th or 13th men.

Yeah, I don't have any expectation that there's any likelihood that we'd grab him. However, to be fair, I also didn't have that kind of expectation with Shaq, either, as it's a huge anomaly for a team to go out and get the guy you actually like. And I do believe that seeing glimmers of hope from end of the bench guys would give them pause. If you were to take a gigantic magnifying glass to that logic, you'd see a scenario where you don't bring in the known quantity (DWill) to serve a legitimate need (needing a backup PG, especially with Hill's health while running into your first playoff in a long time) and you pass on this opportunity because you want to make sure nobody gets in the way of Exum's development. But then you end up playing Shelvin Mack instead.

I think fans take a lot of heat for overvaluing small-time guys that they think have potential. But I think FOs do the same things all the time, but we give them huge passes because we accept the fact that they're doing this professionally and that tends to give their irrationalities more credit. In essence, I'd sacrifice our perceived potential of our end of bench guys for a legitimate role-filling guy who isn't going to be setting the world on fire in the future.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So Minny gonna play Juan Hernangomez and Jake Layman at the 4 for 48 minutes a night? They hoping Naz Reid is ready. Maybe they just realized they are trash this year and won't be able to complete... so its a full tank to the top 3 so they don't give GS their pick...

Whatever the reason it is goofy as hell. He played as well as could possibly be hoped in preseason... I guess this is how ****** teams stay ******. They are rostering Ed Davis for hell's sakes... btw I watched about 5 minutes of their preseason game and Ed was just as bad as I remembered. I think he's cooked.

 

[idiot]

So Minny gonna play Juan Hernangomez and Jake Layman at the 4 for 48 minutes a night? They hoping Naz Reid is ready. Maybe they just realized they are trash this year and won't be able to complete... so its a full tank to the top 3 so they don't give GS their pick...

Whatever the reason it is goofy as hell. He played as well as could possibly be hoped in preseason... I guess this is how ****** teams stay ******. They are rostering Ed Davis for hell's sakes... btw I watched about 5 minutes of their preseason game and Ed was just as bad as I remembered. I think he's cooked.

Just poking around for a few minutes, it seems that the Wolves may be jettisoning RJH in hopes/expectation that PJ Tucker shakes loose from the Houston situation (ie when/if Harden traded). No idea if that's accurate ore a realistic hope on their part.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just poking around for a few minutes, it seems that the Wolves may be jettisoning RJH in hopes/expectation that PJ Tucker shakes loose from the Houston situation (ie when/if Harden traded). No idea if that's accurate ore a realistic hope on their part.

Yeah... Imma go ahead and keep RHJ and release someone else... deal with PJ Tucker later if I am the Wolves.

 

[infection]

Just poking around for a few minutes, it seems that the Wolves may be jettisoning RJH in hopes/expectation that PJ Tucker shakes loose from the Houston situation (ie when/if Harden traded). No idea if that's accurate ore a realistic hope on their part.

I think PJ Tucker has been able to look good in a situation that allows his role to shine more than it would elsewhere. I think the next team to obtain Tucker may be disappointed.

 

[Hekate]

So Minny gonna play Juan Hernangomez and Jake Layman at the 4 for 48 minutes a night? They hoping Naz Reid is ready. Maybe they just realized they are trash this year and won't be able to complete... so its a full tank to the top 3 so they don't give GS their pick...

Whatever the reason it is goofy as hell. He played as well as could possibly be hoped in preseason... I guess this is how ****** teams stay ******. They are rostering Ed Davis for hell's sakes... btw I watched about 5 minutes of their preseason game and Ed was just as bad as I remembered. I think he's cooked.

Layman was pretty good for Minny before he got injured. He looked good in preseason as well in terms of health. They may like him better than RHJ.

And they re-signed Hernangomez who still has some potential and offers a different skill-set.

I don't know why RHJ isn't getting picked up. I think he is overrated on D but still very good but then again he struggled to cut into Raptors rotation early last year because of effort issues. I remember Nick Nurse singling him out. He still got minutes later but they didn't sign him so who knows.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Layman was pretty good for Minny before he got injured. He looked good in preseason as well in terms of health. They may like him better than RHJ.

And they re-signed Hernangomez who still has some potential and offers a different skill-set.

I don't know why RHJ isn't getting picked up. I think he is overrated on D but still very good but then again he struggled to cut into Raptors rotation early last year because of effort issues. I remember Nick Nurse singling him out. He still got minutes later but they didn't sign him so who knows.

I guess... who knows. I do think half of Minny's roster would get called out by Nurse for effort issues including their "star" players. Raps play about as hard as any team I've ever watched.

It likely ends up being a nothing-burger for them as they are trashy again this year... just seems like a guy that would play 15+ minutes for them for sure.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I was reminded this week that Oni fought with Dante in practice. With the talk of him as a fiery competitor (sometimes a little too fiery per Locke) I became even more intrigued... could he be our Jae Crowder enforcer/******* that comes in to stir things up a bit? The skill set and measurements are already intriguing.

I need to see him get a real shot. I guess if Joe misses the first game then we will get a look. Trent vs. Oni could be fun.

 

[NAOS]

What is the body of work that demonstrates him our best perimeter defender? How come our best perimeter defender didn't log any meaningful playoff minutes when we sorely needed those skills?

I'm not saying he can't be. For all we know he could be. But from where is this notion arising?

I’ve repeatedly asked him for evidence. None ever arrives.