Game Thread Jun 16, 2021 08:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Clippers - Game 5

[yamers]

This is so true. Favors, Niang and Oni shouldn't be on the floor in the series at all, but what is Quin supposed to do? Like, we have no other options. We can play the starters 40 plus but I don't think you can play all 5 of them all 48 minutes, and we have absolutely no other options, the end of our bench is the absolute *****.

thats what i'm saying...

snyder is being forced to play players that can't even ****ing play....

we have

mitchell
gobert
ingles
oneale
bogdanovic

and then he has to rotate clarkson in...

and then we have ****ing NUCLEAR WARHEAD MOMENTUM KILLER NIANG AND ONI...i mean wtf is quin even supposed to do?
I think snyder doesn't have the pieces to adjust tbh. The clippers can just bench zubac and cousins and play small, and then activate them when needed. DL gave us no bench...

 

[Jingled]

Not sure what the hell has happened to Favors. I guess his body is just completely shot. The sad thing is we have him signed for two more seasons after this and I don't see any possible way to move him. No one is going to take on his contract.

 

[Agent#00]

Is there anything we can do to counter clips small ball?

 

[magic]

Is there anything we can do to counter clips small ball?

Attack the rim (with someone other than Mitchell or Clarkson) instead of just standing around on the 3 point line. Jingles did it a few times in the 4th quarter and it was effective. But then we went back to standing around :/

Defense-wise, idk. They've figured out how to take advantage of Gobert and Favors. Gobert would have to step up his defense and actually block shots when they ISO him. That or we'd need Derrick Favors to load up on steroids so that he can play like his past self.

 

[stormkoopacv03]

Man, some of you already sound like we're eliminated from the playoffs! Jazz still have a shot at this. Two in a row and bring on the sun's dammit!

I predicted Jazz in 7 before the series started so I'm sticking to that. But some the cringe homer jazz predictions were like jazz in 4 or in 5. I'm like nah, you're totally underestimating the Clippers. The shame...

 

[Ineptimusprime]

Man, some of you already sound like we're eliminated from the playoffs! Jazz still have a shot at this. Two in a row and bring on the sun's dammit!

I predicted Jazz in 7 before the series started so I'm sticking to that. But some the cringe homer jazz predictions were like jazz in 4 or in 5. I'm like nah, you're totally underestimating the Clippers. The shame...

Don’s ankle looks done, guy. That was the final straw. We will lose game 6 by 20+.

 

[Mikle12]

Conley has already come out and said he has had a setback so he is done for the playoffs I reckon so is the team and time to blow up the team and get rid of the hacks on the bench except Clarkson and who would want o’neal he would be worthless in a trade and niang absolute zero worth maybe bogey is worth the most on that roster

 

[toddychurch]

Our player development are wasting their precious time out there working on guys whose ceiling is just somebody else’s floor.

This right here. I've been saying it for years. There are many high ceiling potential guys (i.e. athletic, long, etc.) who are drafted and don't work out during their rookie contracts or are high college recruits who don't get drafted (look at any of the recent Kentucky and Kansas recruiting classes). People always ask for names and I can come up with a couple when I have time, but to me, when it comes to player development, get the guy who is blessed with a good basketball body (potentially high ceiling) and develop him into a basketball player.

 

[Ineptimusprime]

This right here. I've been saying it for years. There are many high ceiling potential guys (i.e. athletic, long, etc.) who are drafted and don't work out during their rookie contracts or are high college recruits who don't get drafted (look at any of the recent Kentucky and Kansas recruiting classes). People always ask for names and I can come up with a couple when I have time, but to me, when it comes to player development, get the guy who is blessed with a good basketball body (potentially high ceiling) and develop him into a basketball player.

We need to nab Marcus Garrett from Kansas. Lockdown perimeter guy. He would be our Thybulle. He’ll be available late second round.

 

[stormkoopacv03]

Don’s ankle looks done, guy. That was the final straw. We will lose game 6 by 20+.

Nah, I don't believe that. Jazz don't have a choice but to play better now. Their back is against the wall now and that in itself is a motivation to try harder. Not just Donovan, but everyone. The time is now boys, don't give up the Jazz just yet. The series is going to get good for the Jazz.

 

[toddychurch]

One thing that drives me nuts is our lack of toughness/tenacity. We take too much **** from opposing players. What I mean is back in the day if someone was going off and punking you i.e. Jackson, there would be a hard foul taken to put him in his place, let him know you're not putting up with him making crazy shots or dribbling around trying to embarrass Rudy (see Malone's elbows and Isaiah Thomas' head; Raja Bell on Kobe). We all know PG is a ***** and backs down when confronted, he's also pretty mentally weak so when he drives and does his forearm pushoff Royce or someone needs to hammer him to the ground or when Jackson is dicking around run at him and hit him. I get it, it seems dirty and could cause injury, but it's part of the game of trying to get into people's heads. We just don't have anyone willing to do that it seems. Ingles used to talk and mess with people but he's out of sorts. I guess I want what Crowder used to do in a sense, however, I hated his shot selection.

 

[JoelHodgeJr]

That is stupid. A hard foul doesn't take anyone out of shot making it raises for fight in you. We couldn't hit a shot and that why we lost.

We will still win this series

 

[RJF]

Man, some of you already sound like we're eliminated from the playoffs! Jazz still have a shot at this. Two in a row and bring on the sun's dammit!

I predicted Jazz in 7 before the series started so I'm sticking to that. But some the cringe homer jazz predictions were like jazz in 4 or in 5. I'm like nah, you're totally underestimating the Clippers. The shame...

Had the jazz held serve at home I would agree with you but, after losing game five, I don’t believe they have it in them to win game six. Especially when you consider how they played in LA so far this series.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Nah, I don't believe that. Jazz don't have a choice but to play better now. Their back is against the wall now and that in itself is a motivation to try harder. Not just Donovan, but everyone. The time is now boys, don't give up the Jazz just yet. The series is going to get good for the Jazz.

If they can't be motivated for literally the biggest game in their careers last night why would they be motivated for Friday? These guys got manhandled by a team missing it's best player.

 

[Release the Kraken]

Had the jazz held serve at home I would agree with you but, after losing game five, I don’t believe they have it in them to win game six. Especially when you consider how they played in LA so far this series.

Unfortunately this^ I mean c’mon, we played out of our minds in the first half and still couldn’t beat them. Leonard and Ibaka out but they still had too many fresh horses for our team. Have you ever seen so many former All Stars and 1st rounders assembled? Playing against our assortment of D League alum, and mostly second rounders. They bring in Pat Bev or Rondo , we bring in Oni. Honestly, I don’t know who to blame, the league that promotes player controlled contracts, and defection to super teams or a coach that has shut down every decent bargain free agent we’ve ever had discouraging others to come here.

 

[LoPo]

I'm extremely disappointed by last night, but I can still see us winning this series.

They played absolutely lights out all game. If we can quiet their crowd enough to squeak by, then we hold all the cards for game 7.

Little things like replacing Royce with Bojan at the top of the offense when they trap Don on the wing. Minor adjustments and a realistic output from their non-stars and maybe we grind it out.

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[JoelHodgeJr]

To all the haters. Shut up....

Shut up.

This is still the best year we have seen in over ten years. It's been a incredibly weird year but still amazing.

If you wont love your Jazz when times are tough you should be allowed to share in the glory times either.

 

[Sean]

To all the haters. Shut up....

Shut up.

This is still the best year we have seen in over ten years. It's been a incredibly weird year but still amazing.

If you wont love your Jazz when times are tough you should be allowed to share in the glory times either.

lmao the glory times of what, exactly?

Guess what, my dude, you don't get to decide how to fan. If you enjoy constant let down and playoff mediocrity, that's on you. But as someone who has watched the Jazz become an easy out in the playoffs for so many teams, especially in the semifinals, the last 20+ years, all I've got to say to your post is meh.

Utah hasn't made it beyond the semifinals since 2007 - 14 years ago.

The only three teams in the West who've had a longer drought of not making the conference finals? Sacramento, Minnesota...and the Clippers.

Congrats. If the Jazz lose this series, they'll join the two worst-run, most losing franchises in the NBA for longest WCF drought.

Think what it says that even in our best year in a decade, we still can't figure out how to get out of the semifinals.

This franchise is jinxed with a mediocre mindset. Unfortunately, too many of our fans are accepting of that mediocrity because, well gosh, the Jazz won some games in the regular season!

Well you're going to be hard pressed to find another NBA franchise whose regular season success is so vastly different than their postseason success. The gap is huge - like Utah has the 4th best winning percentage in NBA history when it comes to the regular season and just the 19th playoff win percentage in NBA history.

There's no glory for the franchise. Almost every other Western team has done more in the playoffs than the Jazz the last ten years. That says everything.

 

[One Brow]

Some people on this forum actually think Gobert is our best player

Only because he is.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

It doesn’t hurt as much because it just isn’t gonna happen this year. Whether it’s this round or next. Mitchell is on one leg and won’t be back to normal until he’s had a month+ of rest. There are not 10 grueling playoff wins left in this roster. Not even close.